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I live in USA as a non-citizen permanent resident. I cannot vote, hence I only watched that election from the sidelines. My personal theory is that the reason why Trump won over Harris in 2024 is because a large number of people wanted accountability and justice over crimes against humanity that happened under Biden, and which Harris seemed to fully support. But here we are, a year and a half into Trump 2.0, and yet absolutely nothing was done on that issue, while the orange man made life hell for those who live in post-sex-change bodies (I happen to be one), made the economy even worse, and started a new war of choice.
Now bring on the downvotes…
How ironic…
Depends.
Is this woman overtly bigoted and does she constantly demonize half of U.S. citizens?
If so, then she’d have staunch support of all conservative voters regardless of what else she does.
Nope. Nobody voted for Nikki Haley in the primaries.
Trump was right. I voted for Harris and the economy is much worse now. I am sorry.
I’d be having brunch right now
It’s not a ballroom
Ballroom, torment nexus. Tomato, tomäto really
The “ballroom” is the facade they plan to put on top as camouflage.
Chicks, amirite fellas?
Nope. You’re wrong.
2024 voters were like: “Why doesn’t this bitch acknowledge that the cost of living is killing us?”
It’s that simple.
Because anyone paying attention knows that Democrats are always better for our economy. So anyone bitching about the cost of living had a really easy decision to make in 2024.
IIRC she had outlined some policies in her platform that would have helped with that.
Like the $50,000 tax break for small business owners? Lol
That’s pretty specific for an outline
There was essentially no policy to help with cost of living. That’s what I’m trying to point out. That was one of the bullshit policies she was running with. And I fuckin voted for her lol
And I fuckin voted for her lol
Good. You did the least stupid thing you could have done in the last election.
I did, too. It was the first time I had ever voted to keep someone else out of the chair. So stupid
Sometimes that’s the way you have to play the game.
Most voters decided to play it stupid. And now here we are.
“Concept of a plan” is way better than whatever was in the Dems election program.
People can’t read, intelligence is on a normal distribution. You know where that poster above you is on that curve.
I mean politicians always have great ideas until they get elected.
You and everyone that thinks like you is responsible for Trump winning. Congratulations MAGAt.
Is my policy shit? No, it’s the voters who are wrong.
Yes. Let’s keep absolving voters for the most obvious voting blunder in American history.
Let’s keep absolving voters for going with the twice impeached convicted felon and adjudicated rapist with one failed presidency under his belt instead of the highly educated non-criminal but admittedly milquetoast alternative.
Voters don’t have any responsibility, right?
Can you show me with quotes when I said the voters don’t have any responsibility?
I just said that the DNC has a shit conservative platform. That’s blaming the DNC, not voters.
At some point, if you choose the fascist pedo felon over literally anything, including Bush term 4, its on you
Where did I say I chose that?
I mean Harris’ policy did explicitly address most of the concerns everyday Americans have but the overwhelming majority of them, including apparently you, don’t have any idea what her actual policies were, they just repeat what fox news told them to think.
I haven’t watched Fox News since the early 90’s. Wanna cool up a new fantasy about who I am again? It’s very entertaining for me.
I haven’t watched Fox News since the early 90’s.
Then what’s your excuse?
My excuse for what?
I assume people that repeat stupid republican bullshit are stupid republicans. This seems like a you problem.
Saying “I disagree with weak neoliberal policy instead of progressive reforms” is republican now. Interesting. Thanks for the entertainment!
This isn’t the flex you think it is. You think you’re saying how much smarter you are to not be tricked but what you are really saying is your leaders can’t win without help from the people you despise.
I’m not flexing. I’m saying most Americans are incredibly stupid. I’m saying a full third of us are outright bigot fascists that actively want to say slurs in public and hate crime minorities. I’m saying another full third of us (you’re in this group) are too stupid or self absorbed to acknowledge that third party and non voters directly contribute to republicans getting elected. Of the remaining third, most don’t vote in Dem primaries so we have no progressive condition. I’m saying that the American Federal government is largely representative of the average American that is too stupid or mean to just vote in their own best interest (which yes for my entire life has meant explicitly voting democrat in every election). You are the American that has earned and deserves Trump. Reevaluate your priorities.
I voted for Harris, try again. I am at least willing to recognize where her campaign could have done better, because like you, I recognize we need those voters who went 3rd party (or stayed at home) in order to win. Unlike you, I hold leadership accountable for failing to inspire an electorate large enough to win.
Register if needed to vote in the primaries and get everyone you know to do that too and always vote for progressives in the primaries. That’s how you hold leadership accountable, by gaining the actual power to replace it. The democratic party is not a coalition of leftists and progressives. It’s a big tent party filled with everyone from nazi adjacent to the closest thing to a socialist American politics can muster. If all us leftists and progressives actually fuckin voted and otherwise engaged in the electoral process we’d have an actual opposition party. Till then the political reality is that every vote that isn’t for a democrat is explicitly for maga, and repeating fox news criticisms of democrats helps elect republicans.
I vote in the primaries but last I checked there was no primary for harris to be POTUS in the last election cycle. And no, repeating valid criticisms of democrats does not automatically mean you are helping Republicans win. To think that requires a staggering amount of cynicism towards voters that one wonders why you are even trying to reason with said voters
Congrats on being on the extreme minority that thinks killing and raping children is morally justified.
Congratulations on voting for Trump, by putting yourself on a moralistic high horse.
I voted for Harris, I’m not campaigning for her literally years after the election though like you are, only a literal pedophile would do that.
You are a petulant child that is complaining that they didn’t have the choice they wanted, years after the fact. Also you are campaigning, therefore you have admitted your Epstien ties.
I don’t campaign for anyone. My beliefs prohibit me from joining a political party. I vote for the lesser evil, as I am an adult who understands that is the best option I’m going to have.
YES BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER ELECTION IN 5 FUCKING MONTHS AND ANOTHER ONE IN TWO YEARS BOTH OF WHICH YOU PEOPLE ARE ALREADY GIVING UP ON BY SUGGESTING WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING AND ELECT MORE PEDOPHILES.
Because you fucking people ‘vote for the lesser evil.’ It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. Things didn’t get better under Obama or Biden. Things got quieter for the middle class Americans that ‘just want to be at brunch.’
Just fucking stop voting for the lesser evil. Vote for the policies you actually fucking want regardless of what colour tie the person has. Congrats you’re actually doing a democracy at that point. What you people are advocating for is objectively not democracy, it’s a dictatorship.
And what in the actual fuck do you think you’re talking about?
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What a stupid shitty fuckin troll account.
I’m sorry you’re too stupid to understand people can criticize your chosen pedophile representative.
Some of the non voting idiots keep trying to claim the moral high ground, by claiming that by not voting they opposed the genocide perpetrated by the Israeli government.
Of course that ignores the fact that they default voted for Trump by not voting.
Totally man.
It’s my fault people can’t afford to live in this country.
You and people like you, yes.
When you do work to get republicans elected, like you’re doing right now, then yes it’s your fault explicitly. Being too stupid to understand that cause and effect does not absolve you of your responsibility.
It’s ironic that you can’t resist using misogynistic language even as you deny misogyny was a factor.
Imagine someone denying race was a factor while calling her the nword.
Nope. You’re wrong.
There’s alot of factors that led to where we are now.
It’s not simple at all actually.
it’s that simple
Sure thing bud
Pretty sure that further impoverishing people and expanding the MIC was her platform too.
Bi-partisan support for attacks on the oppressed.
Imagine if Americans, men and women, weren’t political morons with the education of a 4yo.
As if the professional managerial class doesn’t have their own intellectual short comings when it comes to politics. For a group thet despises Marxist Lenninism, they sure love being the vanguard
Seriously, living in flyover country the average person is so much more fuckin stupid than you think. The average American adult is incapable of critical thinking and is functionally illiterate. I knew people were fuckin dumb twenty years ago in school but holy shit it’s so much worse now.
is so much more fuckin stupid than you think
When I read things like this I believe it.
I think it wasn’t as acceptable to be willfully ignorant back then. Stupid people were shamed (rightfully) into silence in serious discussions. But now we have a president who speaks at a 4th grade reading level, so dumb fucks feel free to screech about everything, whether they have a modicum of understanding or not.
Imagine if america wasn’t concocted by literal genocidal enslavers.
Where people are raised on total bullshit from birth, there’s zero surprise that their “leaders” are pure garbage.
Education of a 4 year old, but the malice of an 80 yelling at his neighbors kids for touching his lawn.
Imagine if a candidate, looking back at four years of the cost of living exploding, were willing to prioritize the people who are working 100 hours a week to still be homeless over her president’s ego.
Vance is going to be in that same position here in a couple of years.
- Harris unveils economic agenda to combat soaring grocery and housing prices - PBS
- Fact-checking economic claims Trump and Harris made at debate - ABC
She talked about rising costs just about every chance she got. It was debated in the Presidential Debate. It was part of her stump speeches. Everyone knew it was the main thing voters were focused on. It wasn’t a secret. These took 5-minutes to find.
These took 5-minutes to find.
Yes, but it takes even less time to not look things up and default to whining instead.
It’s a good thing we voted for someone smarter than that, and didn’t just file our vote under “I don’t care”, right?
Holy hyperbole. Who the hell is working 100 hours a week and is still homeless?
You’d actually be surprised but that’s not the point. The issue is that guy’s take is full of shit, Harris’ platform did specifically address the affordability crisis but a shocking number of Americans are stupid enough to actually believe democrats and republicans are the same in spite of all evidence and so we get dipass takes like that.
a shocking number of Americans are stupid enough to actually believe democrats and republicans are the same in spite of all evidence
This is the thing that makes me more depressed about the future of America than anything else.
This is not some ambiguous thing. There are MOUNTAIN RANGES, SOLAR SYSTEMS, GALACTIC REGIONS of evidence proving beyond any shadow of a doubt that both parties are not the same, but a terrifying number of Americans still believe it. Because they can’t be bothered to sit down and do their homework.
These people do not exist in reality and I’m not sure what can bring them back to it.
Yeah I mentioned that in another reply to this same guy - she actually had policies to help these specific problems. I don’t remember exactly what they were but there was one to help first time home buyers and another to help with grocery store prices.
This.
I know Harris and Clinton are controversial but they were two of the most qualified candidates to ever run, who happen to be women. Yet, somehow, the biggest moron on the planet defeated both of them. That moron only lost to the oldest man to ever take office, up to that point.
That’s because the issue isn’t just candidates not adequately reaching voters. It’s that American voters are fantastically stupid and, in many cases, also fantastically bigoted.
So take a candidate that’s open to being publicly bigoted and throw in some pretty obvious propaganda and watch the drooling masses perform a historic blunder.
Clinton was certainly qualified. Senator and Secretary of State make great qualifications. The other one eh…
Well she also was a senator and a VP. But yeah, Clinton has longer experience.
two of the most qualified candidates to ever run
That’s the problem. The qualifications are literally being a piece of shit.
Bill Clinton isn’t a woman, silly!
Careful, there’s a lot of morons on lemmy that would rather live in a fascist state than vote for a candidate that isn’t 100% perfect.
“I want 100% of my demands met or I’m taking my ball and going home.” - Asshole Losers
I voted Harris. Techno feudalism is better than outright fascism, sure, and that is why I voted for the techno feudalist party that Harris represented. I wanted my neighbors to have food in their belly if it meant being surveilled and controlled and monetized and wage-slaved for the rest of their lives. I would rather have a few people snatched off the streets than the many that the fascists wanted.
I wish leftists took over the democratic party, though. They are techno feudalists who only have the argument of “at least we’re not fascists”. At least leftists care about my neighbors beyond making sure they have an employer to wage slave for and sustain the 1%.
The best democrats are the ones that are not at all like Harris. Make that make sense. The only redeeming quality about her, IMO, was she wasn’t a fascist. I didn’t find her annoying, but I just imagine her as a sock puppet for whoever tells her she’s the bestest person ever. After being around children and watching them develop, most politicians are just adult-sized babies wanting to be told they’re the goodest little boys and girls and are saving the world. Leftist politicians are not that, typically. They, typically, act like the adults in the room. Harris was the adult in the room full of fascists and is why I proudly voted for her. She is not an adult in the room full of leftists. She is a toddler and infant that is smarter than Trump because at least she wouldn’t believe she’s the best thing since sliced bread in a room full of adults actually smarter than her, which is not that hard at all.
She and everyone like her in that party needs to get kicked out and create a new “big tent” Liberal party which argues in favor of liberal ideas like free markets and a strong NATO and a strong Israel which will attract all of the non MAGA republicans (which is a strong sign that liberalism is a fucking stupid thing to desire IMO—that’s what “working across the aisle” means to a liberal Democrat), and leave the Democrat party to leftists and people who actually want to work for the American working class. “Benefit the working class over the rich” is what people think is “perfection being the enemy of good”. As if. That kind of defeatist attitude is what lets my neighbors suffer and get bent. But people don’t care about my neighbors apparently, and therefore allow the democrats to get away with it for the past two decades. At least that way I can keep voting democrat without knowingly hurting my neighbors more than they should be.
The ones for techno feudalism like musk, thiel, yarvin and others are on trump’s camp.
That’s what dark MAGA supposed to be.
Entirely too many people let perfect be the enemy of better
You’re the moron. Harris is the moron.
She looked at four years of the cost of living pricing people out of homes and grocery stores and her response to it was: "I wouldn’t have done anything different’, and even worse, she had the balls and outright stupidity to say that in public.
So vote for the guy who doesn’t even know what the word ‘grocery’ means. That makes sense.
Inherited a nearly crashed economy partly due to the absolute inept bungling of a pandemic by the previous orange turd, and they had to spend 4 years getting the country and economy running while simultaneously trying to rebuild the US’s reputation on the world stage while the reds did absolutely everything they could to prevent Biden from passing meaningful legislation for the sole purpose of making him look bad.
But yeah…blame her for not doing anything different.
Oh I will.
That’s what a reasonable person does when a leader spends four years ignoring a cost of living crisis.
She and Biden made sure Israel got their aid and their WMDs though.
when a leader spends four years ignoring a cost of living crisis.
Are you talking about Biden?
The U.S. was recovering faster than other 1st world nations under Biden. Dude invested heavily in clean energy. He had a solid job creation record. He was forgiving student loans. He was trying to get medical debt off credit reports.
Were you asleep during his presidency? Cuz it sure seems like a significant number of Americans were.
Right. Not like trump, who is being very tough on Israel 🙄
Great response: “Our guy is as bad as their guy.”
I mean… we were doing much better than everyone else. Changing nothing is preferred to whatever the fuck this is!
Hey buddy, you don’t like the word Fuck, but you’ll call everyone else a moron? Maybe look in the mirror and stop being a dense fucking idiot.
As the saying goes:
If you find yourself constantly surrounded by assholes…you might be the asshole.
But if she said she would have done things differently, it would have been played as disloyalty and the media would have a field day accusing her of hating her former boss and admitting to doing a terrible job. It was a lose-lose question.
Shhhh, we don’t like this kind of rationality here
I mean General Harris should have simply not ordered the IDF to do a genocide!
If the genocide was already ongoing under a Democrat, then it’s not fascism, it’s just sparkling authoritarianism.
Stop calling my team pro genocide. I hate being called a genocide enabler. Stop calling me and my party that! We are not genocide enablers!!!
Qualified for war crimes and genocide? Yes, overqualified. Now downvote me, bend over and spread your cheeks, October is coming. You need to be prepared.
But but but both sides! Kamala would have been worse than Trump in every way shape possible. Because… both sides!
/s I really hate people who argue both sides are the same. It just reduces voter turnout and republicans win when less people vote.
Oh, Kamala is better than Trump. barely. She’s as useful as a wet noodle, and wet noodles are more useful and better than Trump. So of course she’s better than Trump. Anyone who argues otherwise is a moron. But anyone who argues she’s better than any other free market advocating, NATO loving, Israel supporting liberal is also a moron. Leftists do not advocate for free markets, NATO, or Israel.
Oh, Kamala is better than Trump. barely.
Smooth brain take right there.
Nobody ever argues that they’re the same. Someone points out that neither is all that great, which is accurate, and a dozen idiots come out of the woodwork to shout “both sides!” at them. I suppose you want people to pretend that one of them is good, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
One is the lesser of two evils, that’s unarguable.
A lesser evil is still evil, is it not?
Who the fuck cares?
One WILL be in control. That WILL happen.
Only a moron would do anything other than vote for the lesser of two evils if it is GUARANTEED that one of the two will be in power and control our lives.
Who the fuck cares?
I do, and you should.
One WILL be in control. That WILL happen.
And that means I have to be happy about it?
Only a moron would do anything other than vote for the lesser of two evils
We’re not talking about voting. We’re talking about people who drag out the old “both sides!” bumper sticker slogan anytime someone dares to criticize the Democrats. What’s your suggested alternative? Should I pretend to like them?
Hooray for me! I voted for evil!
if it is GUARANTEED that one of the two will be in power and control our lives.
If my only choice is between losing a finger or losing an arm, I’m going to choose the finger. That doesn’t mean I have to be excited about it.
Qualified how exactly?
Harris couldn’t make it out of Iowa when she tried a legitimate run and Clinton had to rig primaries to win against Bernie. (A practice Dems were later forced to defend in a public court proceeding.)
Harris couldn’t make it out of Iowa when she tried a legitimate run and Clinton had to rig primaries to win against Bernie.
It’s astounding she managed to rig all the independent polling too.
You’re mixing up qualifications with elect-ability. They are not the same thing. Both women were very qualified for the job. That has nothing to do with whether or not people like, or are willing to vote, for them. Given your other comments, I’m guessing this isn’t a mistake on your part, but run of the mill disingenuous internet troll behavior.
Qualified in terms of education and experience, not policy or public appeal.
What do you think qualifies a person for office exactly?
You fuckin people still going on about how it was rigged when you just don’t understand either how it works in the first place and also that Bernie overwhelmingly lost to Hilary because he’s not a fuckin Democrat, of course Democrats are going to pick the Democrat to represent the Democrats, and the primary was legit and it wasn’t remotely fuckin close. Progressives don’t vote, and they didn’t show up or register to vote for him in the primary and he fuckin overwhelmingly lost. Take your russian republican propaganda bullshit and fuck off fuckin fascist supporter.
I respect the shit out of Bernie, but I’m beyond fucking tired of people whining about him.
He lost the popular vote in both primaries.
He wasn’t as popular as the people still whining about it think he was.
Neolib apologists downvoting you lol fuck this site, it’s turning into reddit the same way reddit got noticeably dumber when digg imploded itself
Oh yes.
Love it when people pretend that Democrats support something because they offered a sound byte. 🤟😎
What mattered was that they didn’t do anything meaningful to solve the problem.
Imagine it was a black man
In a tan suit
Eating spicy mustard
Riding a bicycle
With a loving wife and family
Bombing brown people overseas
“Proof that women shouldn’t run for office”
That’s what the response would be.
Tired: men/women shouldn’t run for president
Wired: there shouldn’t be a president
Would Obama still available at that point for a “Thanks Obama” ?
Back when we had a president who could take a joke
'…all while swiping huge piles of money out of uncle sam’s wallet"
