Come on. You should have realized the problem here when you read “the boy who cried wolf.”
2020 Biden: “Trump is a Nazi, vote for me!”
2020-2024 Biden: “I couldn’t possibly order the criminal prosecution of my Republican opponent!”
2024 Harris: “Trump is a Nazi, vote for me!”
This is why Harris lost. Her core campaign message was completely undermined by Biden’s actions. To the average voter, the Democrats looked like hyperventilating drama queens who slander their opponents as fascists. Now, I understand that Trump absolutely does meet the definition of being a fascist. But Democrats proved that they clearly weren’t willing to take the fascist threat seriously. Democrats didn’t treat Republicans like Nazis. Therefore, voters didn’t believe them.
Remember. Actions speak louder than words. If the other side are Nazis, but your own actions demonstrate that you don’t consider them a threat, you cannot then expect voters to take you entirely truthful claims about them being Nazis seriously.
I voted Harris. Techno feudalism is better than outright fascism, sure, and that is why I voted for the techno feudalist party that Harris represented. I wanted my neighbors to have food in their belly if it meant being surveilled and controlled and monetized and wage-slaved for the rest of their lives. I would rather have a few people snatched off the streets than the many that the fascists wanted.
I wish leftists took over the democratic party, though. They are techno feudalists who only have the argument of “at least we’re not fascists”. At least leftists care about my neighbors beyond making sure they have an employer to wage slave for and sustain the 1%.
The best democrats are the ones that are not at all like Harris. Make that make sense. The only redeeming quality about her, IMO, was she wasn’t a fascist. I didn’t find her annoying, but I just imagine her as a sock puppet for whoever tells her she’s the bestest person ever. After being around children and watching them develop, most politicians are just adult-sized babies wanting to be told they’re the goodest little boys and girls and are saving the world. Leftist politicians are not that, typically. They, typically, act like the adults in the room. Harris was the adult in the room full of fascists and is why I proudly voted for her. She is not an adult in the room full of leftists. She is a toddler and infant that is smarter than Trump because at least she wouldn’t believe she’s the best thing since sliced bread in a room full of adults actually smarter than her, which is not that hard at all.
She and everyone like her in that party needs to get kicked out and create a new “big tent” Liberal party which argues in favor of liberal ideas like free markets and a strong NATO and a strong Israel which will attract all of the non MAGA republicans (which is a strong sign that liberalism is a fucking stupid thing to desire IMO—that’s what “working across the aisle” means to a liberal Democrat), and leave the Democrat party to leftists and people who actually want to work for the American working class. “Benefit the working class over the rich” is what people think is “perfection being the enemy of good”. As if. That kind of defeatist attitude is what lets my neighbors suffer and get bent. But people don’t care about my neighbors apparently, and therefore allow the democrats to get away with it for the past two decades. At least that way I can keep voting democrat without knowingly hurting my neighbors more than they should be.
But if she said she would have done things differently, it would have been played as disloyalty and the media would have a field day accusing her of hating her former boss and admitting to doing a terrible job. It was a lose-lose question.
Look, I know you don’t want to hear it, but Trump delivered a direct and simple message for how he was going to lower your cost of living. He delivered it in a way that even someone with an 8th grade education can understand. It’s why he won and Harris lost.
Trump’s message to white voters was simple: “I will make your life better. I will deport millions of brown people. That will lower housing costs and raise wages.”
Now, economists can point out fatal flaws with this message, but that’s irrelevant. What matters in politics is he made a compelling case to voters why voting for him would improve their lives. It was an evil method meant to appeal to racists, but it was at least a method. Harris had nothing comparable.
Inherited a nearly crashed economy partly due to the absolute inept bungling of a pandemic by the previous orange turd, and they had to spend 4 years getting the country and economy running while simultaneously trying to rebuild the US’s reputation on the world stage while the reds did absolutely everything they could to prevent Biden from passing meaningful legislation for the sole purpose of making him look bad.
But yeah…blame her for not doing anything different.
when a leader spends four years ignoring a cost of living crisis.
Are you talking about Biden?
The U.S. was recovering faster than other 1st world nations under Biden. Dude invested heavily in clean energy. He had a solid job creation record. He was forgiving student loans. He was trying to get medical debt off credit reports.
Were you asleep during his presidency? Cuz it sure seems like a significant number of Americans were.
Careful, there’s a lot of morons on lemmy that would rather live in a fascist state than vote for a candidate that isn’t 100% perfect.
Come on. You should have realized the problem here when you read “the boy who cried wolf.”
2020 Biden: “Trump is a Nazi, vote for me!” 2020-2024 Biden: “I couldn’t possibly order the criminal prosecution of my Republican opponent!” 2024 Harris: “Trump is a Nazi, vote for me!”
This is why Harris lost. Her core campaign message was completely undermined by Biden’s actions. To the average voter, the Democrats looked like hyperventilating drama queens who slander their opponents as fascists. Now, I understand that Trump absolutely does meet the definition of being a fascist. But Democrats proved that they clearly weren’t willing to take the fascist threat seriously. Democrats didn’t treat Republicans like Nazis. Therefore, voters didn’t believe them.
Remember. Actions speak louder than words. If the other side are Nazis, but your own actions demonstrate that you don’t consider them a threat, you cannot then expect voters to take you entirely truthful claims about them being Nazis seriously.
The GOP propaganda machine made the situation damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Entirely too many people let perfect be the enemy of better
I voted Harris. Techno feudalism is better than outright fascism, sure, and that is why I voted for the techno feudalist party that Harris represented. I wanted my neighbors to have food in their belly if it meant being surveilled and controlled and monetized and wage-slaved for the rest of their lives. I would rather have a few people snatched off the streets than the many that the fascists wanted.
I wish leftists took over the democratic party, though. They are techno feudalists who only have the argument of “at least we’re not fascists”. At least leftists care about my neighbors beyond making sure they have an employer to wage slave for and sustain the 1%.
The best democrats are the ones that are not at all like Harris. Make that make sense. The only redeeming quality about her, IMO, was she wasn’t a fascist. I didn’t find her annoying, but I just imagine her as a sock puppet for whoever tells her she’s the bestest person ever. After being around children and watching them develop, most politicians are just adult-sized babies wanting to be told they’re the goodest little boys and girls and are saving the world. Leftist politicians are not that, typically. They, typically, act like the adults in the room. Harris was the adult in the room full of fascists and is why I proudly voted for her. She is not an adult in the room full of leftists. She is a toddler and infant that is smarter than Trump because at least she wouldn’t believe she’s the best thing since sliced bread in a room full of adults actually smarter than her, which is not that hard at all.
She and everyone like her in that party needs to get kicked out and create a new “big tent” Liberal party which argues in favor of liberal ideas like free markets and a strong NATO and a strong Israel which will attract all of the non MAGA republicans (which is a strong sign that liberalism is a fucking stupid thing to desire IMO—that’s what “working across the aisle” means to a liberal Democrat), and leave the Democrat party to leftists and people who actually want to work for the American working class. “Benefit the working class over the rich” is what people think is “perfection being the enemy of good”. As if. That kind of defeatist attitude is what lets my neighbors suffer and get bent. But people don’t care about my neighbors apparently, and therefore allow the democrats to get away with it for the past two decades. At least that way I can keep voting democrat without knowingly hurting my neighbors more than they should be.
The ones for techno feudalism like musk, thiel, yarvin and others are on trump’s camp.
That’s what dark MAGA supposed to be.
https://fortune.com/2024/08/19/palantir-ceo-peter-thiel-donald-trump-republicans-democrats-alex-karp/
putin also said he prefered Harris.
They were for Democrats before trump. They go to whoever is the winning party and democrats played their part during the Biden era.
That’s the standard corruption (which politicians involved obviously should be punished). With trump they finally cut out the middle man.
“I want 100% of my demands met or I’m taking my ball and going home.” - Asshole Losers
Except some asshole takes your ball and punches you while going home.
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But if she said she would have done things differently, it would have been played as disloyalty and the media would have a field day accusing her of hating her former boss and admitting to doing a terrible job. It was a lose-lose question.
Shhhh, we don’t like this kind of rationality here
I mean… we were doing much better than everyone else. Changing nothing is preferred to whatever the fuck this is!
Hey buddy, you don’t like the word Fuck, but you’ll call everyone else a moron? Maybe look in the mirror and stop being a dense fucking idiot.
As the saying goes:
So vote for the guy who doesn’t even know what the word ‘grocery’ means. That makes sense.
Look, I know you don’t want to hear it, but Trump delivered a direct and simple message for how he was going to lower your cost of living. He delivered it in a way that even someone with an 8th grade education can understand. It’s why he won and Harris lost.
Trump’s message to white voters was simple: “I will make your life better. I will deport millions of brown people. That will lower housing costs and raise wages.”
Now, economists can point out fatal flaws with this message, but that’s irrelevant. What matters in politics is he made a compelling case to voters why voting for him would improve their lives. It was an evil method meant to appeal to racists, but it was at least a method. Harris had nothing comparable.
But yeah…blame her for not doing anything different.
Oh I will.
That’s what a reasonable person does when a leader spends four years ignoring a cost of living crisis.
She and Biden made sure Israel got their aid and their WMDs though.
Are you talking about Biden?
The U.S. was recovering faster than other 1st world nations under Biden. Dude invested heavily in clean energy. He had a solid job creation record. He was forgiving student loans. He was trying to get medical debt off credit reports.
Were you asleep during his presidency? Cuz it sure seems like a significant number of Americans were.
Right. Not like trump, who is being very tough on Israel 🙄
Great response: “Our guy is as bad as their guy.”
I mean General Harris should have simply not ordered the IDF to do a genocide!
If the genocide was already ongoing under a Democrat, then it’s not fascism, it’s just sparkling authoritarianism.
Stop calling my team pro genocide. I hate being called a genocide enabler. Stop calling me and my party that! We are not genocide enablers!!!