She did, Biden did too - that inflation wave after covid was inevitable after reopening from covid, and then they got it under control but for some reason everyone ignored that and voted for trump saying “lower prices on day one”
Another one kamala had no platform besides not trump – also not true she talked about all her policies she has the website with like a thousand different policies – but nobody wanted to see that the media just made the election about trump.
At the end of the day, trump is the president we deserve as a people, we love wrestling and crypto and gambling more than we love affordable housing and healthcare. Maybe not you specifically, and me certainly not, but the average american, that’s what they want. this whitehouse ufc event is gonna do bigger numbers than any Mayweather fight ever. That’s what the people chose.
Trump literally ran without a platform both times. The RNC basically said, “Whatever he wants is our platform.” So it’s understandable why Dems thought Kamala could get away without talking about the party’s platform. They were trying to match the vibes-based campaign model.
Yes. Let’s keep absolving voters for the most obvious voting blunder in American history.
Let’s keep absolving voters for going with the twice impeached convicted felon and adjudicated rapist with one failed presidency under his belt instead of the highly educated non-criminal but admittedly milquetoast alternative.
I mean Harris’ policy did explicitly address most of the concerns everyday Americans have but the overwhelming majority of them, including apparently you, don’t have any idea what her actual policies were, they just repeat what fox news told them to think.
I followed her campaign closely. The only policy she had was a first time homeowner credit that was written so almost no one would qualify for it, and it would have only served to bid home prices up even further.
And clearly Harris’s policies did not meet the concerns of everyday Americans, as she lost to one of the least qualified candidates in American history.
I know this is very painful to accept. But Trump actually spoke more to the issues of the American people than Harris did. Compare the messages:
Trump: I will improve your standard of living by deporting millions of brown people. This will ease the housing supply and tighten the labor market, thereby helping the average white person.
Harris: you’re imagining the inflation you’re experiencing. I don’t give a fuck about your opinions on Gaza; your voice doesn’t matter. Vote for me unless you want the Nazi to win.
And then people wonder why she lost. Trump actually talked to the needs of the average voter. He had a concrete plan on how to help his base. That plan was evil and abominable, but he actually made a compelling case. Kamala didn’t even try.
It turns out “I don’t give a shit about you, vote for me or the Nazi will win” is a strategy you can only pull so many times. It’s been the Democratic campaign message for every election for my whole adult life. And at this point it’s lost all effectiveness.
The real problem was that you can’t run on the other guy being a Nazi after your side just refused to bring them to justice. Biden ran on “the other guy is a Nazi.” But once in power, he didn’t treat them like you’re supposed to treat Nazis. His campaign message was that Trump was a unique threat, but he treated them like ordinary political opposition once he was in office.
Actions speak louder than words. Harris tried to run a campaign that was directly countered by Biden’s actions for the last four years. What was the average voter supposed to conclude but that Democrats were lying about Trump being a Nazi?
I think you just like blaming voters. You’re demonstrating the same political proclivities as a Republican who blames the homeless for being homeless. After all, poor people should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right? If they’re poor, it’s their own fault. Why consider any other factors when we could just call lazy people lazy?
This isn’t the flex you think it is. You think you’re saying how much smarter you are to not be tricked but what you are really saying is your leaders can’t win without help from the people you despise.
I’m not flexing. I’m saying most Americans are incredibly stupid. I’m saying a full third of us are outright bigot fascists that actively want to say slurs in public and hate crime minorities. I’m saying another full third of us (you’re in this group) are too stupid or self absorbed to acknowledge that third party and non voters directly contribute to republicans getting elected. Of the remaining third, most don’t vote in Dem primaries so we have no progressive condition. I’m saying that the American Federal government is largely representative of the average American that is too stupid or mean to just vote in their own best interest (which yes for my entire life has meant explicitly voting democrat in every election). You are the American that has earned and deserves Trump. Reevaluate your priorities.
Whats a "D next to a candidates name even mean anymore? Besides limping a system along which doesnt care about any of my issues and sends my taxes to a nazi theocratic foreign country to shoot little starving kids in the head for sport. We need to keep all this going in its current form you are saying, cant allow it to change or fall apart or we’re …bad voters?
Well I’ll be sure to hustle to the polls and make sure I cast my vote for all the “D” branded genociders. Blue no matter who right. Because that will get this system working for me for a change, right? That will get the bribe-taking DNC centrists who have been ignoring the voters to care about us again?
edit: Yeah thats right, downvote and run away. Theres at least a shred of honesty in your lack of response, if not your original posting.
I voted for Harris, try again. I am at least willing to recognize where her campaign could have done better, because like you, I recognize we need those voters who went 3rd party (or stayed at home) in order to win. Unlike you, I hold leadership accountable for failing to inspire an electorate large enough to win.
Register if needed to vote in the primaries and get everyone you know to do that too and always vote for progressives in the primaries. That’s how you hold leadership accountable, by gaining the actual power to replace it. The democratic party is not a coalition of leftists and progressives. It’s a big tent party filled with everyone from nazi adjacent to the closest thing to a socialist American politics can muster. If all us leftists and progressives actually fuckin voted and otherwise engaged in the electoral process we’d have an actual opposition party. Till then the political reality is that every vote that isn’t for a democrat is explicitly for maga, and repeating fox news criticisms of democrats helps elect republicans.
I vote in the primaries but last I checked there was no primary for harris to be POTUS in the last election cycle. And no, repeating valid criticisms of democrats does not automatically mean you are helping Republicans win. To think that requires a staggering amount of cynicism towards voters that one wonders why you are even trying to reason with said voters
You are a petulant child that is complaining that they didn’t have the choice they wanted, years after the fact. Also you are campaigning, therefore you have admitted your Epstien ties.
I don’t campaign for anyone. My beliefs prohibit me from joining a political party. I vote for the lesser evil, as I am an adult who understands that is the best option I’m going to have.
YES BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER ELECTION IN 5 FUCKING MONTHS AND ANOTHER ONE IN TWO YEARS BOTH OF WHICH YOU PEOPLE ARE ALREADY GIVING UP ON BY SUGGESTING WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING AND ELECT MORE PEDOPHILES.
Because you fucking people ‘vote for the lesser evil.’ It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. Things didn’t get better under Obama or Biden. Things got quieter for the middle class Americans that ‘just want to be at brunch.’
Just fucking stop voting for the lesser evil. Vote for the policies you actually fucking want regardless of what colour tie the person has. Congrats you’re actually doing a democracy at that point. What you people are advocating for is objectively not democracy, it’s a dictatorship.
Sure they did. Our economy recovered during Obama’s entire presidency. The numbers literally prove that. The numbers also show we were recovering from COVID better than other 1st world countries during Biden’s term. Obama got affordable healthcare for millions of people who had none, myself included. He brokered the Iran Nuclear Deal. Biden got the largest infrastructure bill in our lifetimes passed. He invested money in clean energy. He got student loans forgiven for millions before the Republicans put a stop to it. At the end of his presidency he was trying to get medical debt removed from credit reports.
To say nothing got better under these presidents indicates you are clueless about politics in your own country.
Vote for the policies you actually fucking want regardless of what colour tie the person has.
This is not a winning strategy. If you voted for Jill Stein in the last election, congrats, you got NOTHING. There is no viable 3rd party in the U.S. and there won’t be for a long time, if ever. If you vote solely based on your ideals, you will lose. In this country, it is essentially a guarantee that you will have to make concessions at the ballot box to get SOME of what you want. So the intelligent thing to do is vote for the person most likely to win that can achieve SOME of your demands. I’m speaking about presidential elections in regards to this. I support people who vote 3rd party in local/state elections to help build up alternative options. But if you’re voting 3rd party in a federal election, all you’re doing is proving that you have no idea how American politics works and helping the shittier option win.
I voted in the primaries, I will vote in the general.
You purity testing pedophile supporters keep sitting out elections which is why we can’t fix shit. You have to shove for years, and you guys only care about the general election. I cannot vote for the things I believe in if you keep allowing the establishment to win with milquetoast candidates in the primary.
BTW you just missed voting in the primary to spend time yelling at me, someone that actually DOES ANYTHING AT ALL, rather than voting in a progressive candidate.
Some of the non voting idiots keep trying to claim the moral high ground, by claiming that by not voting they opposed the genocide perpetrated by the Israeli government.
Of course that ignores the fact that they default voted for Trump by not voting.
When you do work to get republicans elected, like you’re doing right now, then yes it’s your fault explicitly. Being too stupid to understand that cause and effect does not absolve you of your responsibility.
Because anyone paying attention knows that Democrats are always better for our economy. So anyone bitching about the cost of living had a really easy decision to make in 2024.
Democrats may be better for traditional markers of the economy, but 50 years of neoliberalism from both parties has resulted in a K-shaped economy. One that is great if you already have wealth (which is what things like GDP and inflation tell you), but one that is terrible and getting worse if you are a regular person. Neither party has done anything to actually fix the systemic issues that caused this, so when status-quo Dems claim to be better for working people, we can all see that for the lie it is.
Her and her flying monkeys also gaslit the American people. There was very much a “speak no evil, hear no evil” head-in-the-sand attitude to her whole campaign. The campaign, and liberals on social media, just kept blindly parroting the official CPI figures. They would scream down and downvote to oblivion anyone who dared go against the party line, pointing out the well known flaws of the CPI measurement.
Liberals believe in manifesting. It’s the “power of positive thinking” taken to the extreme, into the realm of toxic positivity. Their belief system is that if you believe a thing hard enough, and if you prevent anyone from saying anything to the contrary, the universe will conspire to make your desired reality come into being. If you shout down any negative criticism, you will win.
That’s what the Harris campaign was like. It was horribly flawed. It had a number of campaign positions that made Harris completely unelectable. They tried to vibe their way to victory. Unfortunately, manifesting isn’t real, and they smacked right into the hard unyielding wall of reality.
There was essentially no policy to help with cost of living. That’s what I’m trying to point out. That was one of the bullshit policies she was running with. And I fuckin voted for her lol
well policy wise, she did talk about praying and loving her glock. Centrists like to pretend that never happened. She could reach out to the republican-lites about what they wanted to hear but she had not a single care for the priorities of the massive number of progressive voters. And for all that bending over to the “independents” she got almost nothing for the effort and lost massively from her base voters.
Clearly the DNC plans to try that again, and they will lose again. To Rubio, Shapiro or eric trump …or someone else who is almost comically unqualified and impossible to lose to.
Chicks, amirite fellas?
Nope. You’re wrong.
2024 voters were like: “Why doesn’t this bitch acknowledge that the cost of living is killing us?”
It’s that simple.
She did, Biden did too - that inflation wave after covid was inevitable after reopening from covid, and then they got it under control but for some reason everyone ignored that and voted for trump saying “lower prices on day one”
Another one kamala had no platform besides not trump – also not true she talked about all her policies she has the website with like a thousand different policies – but nobody wanted to see that the media just made the election about trump.
At the end of the day, trump is the president we deserve as a people, we love wrestling and crypto and gambling more than we love affordable housing and healthcare. Maybe not you specifically, and me certainly not, but the average american, that’s what they want. this whitehouse ufc event is gonna do bigger numbers than any Mayweather fight ever. That’s what the people chose.
“I have no empathy…no empathy.”
“No you’re only getting 600 because we decided to include the last payments which ads up to $1,200 so we’re keeping our promise technically.”
That’s pretty much what people remember about Biden’s concern for their financial woes.
Trump literally ran without a platform both times. The RNC basically said, “Whatever he wants is our platform.” So it’s understandable why Dems thought Kamala could get away without talking about the party’s platform. They were trying to match the vibes-based campaign model.
You and everyone that thinks like you is responsible for Trump winning. Congratulations MAGAt.
Is my policy shit? No, it’s the voters who are wrong.
Yes. Let’s keep absolving voters for the most obvious voting blunder in American history.
Let’s keep absolving voters for going with the twice impeached convicted felon and adjudicated rapist with one failed presidency under his belt instead of the highly educated non-criminal but admittedly milquetoast alternative.
Voters don’t have any responsibility, right?
Do you also blame workers for the actions of their CEOS?
Workers don’t elect their CEOs, so this comparison doesn’t work.
No one voted to nominate Harris either. So what’s your point?
Can you show me with quotes when I said the voters don’t have any responsibility?
I just said that the DNC has a shit conservative platform. That’s blaming the DNC, not voters.
At some point, if you choose the fascist pedo felon over literally anything, including Bush term 4, its on you
Where did I say I chose that?
I mean Harris’ policy did explicitly address most of the concerns everyday Americans have but the overwhelming majority of them, including apparently you, don’t have any idea what her actual policies were, they just repeat what fox news told them to think.
I followed her campaign closely. The only policy she had was a first time homeowner credit that was written so almost no one would qualify for it, and it would have only served to bid home prices up even further.
And clearly Harris’s policies did not meet the concerns of everyday Americans, as she lost to one of the least qualified candidates in American history.
I know this is very painful to accept. But Trump actually spoke more to the issues of the American people than Harris did. Compare the messages:
Trump: I will improve your standard of living by deporting millions of brown people. This will ease the housing supply and tighten the labor market, thereby helping the average white person.
Harris: you’re imagining the inflation you’re experiencing. I don’t give a fuck about your opinions on Gaza; your voice doesn’t matter. Vote for me unless you want the Nazi to win.
And then people wonder why she lost. Trump actually talked to the needs of the average voter. He had a concrete plan on how to help his base. That plan was evil and abominable, but he actually made a compelling case. Kamala didn’t even try.
It turns out “I don’t give a shit about you, vote for me or the Nazi will win” is a strategy you can only pull so many times. It’s been the Democratic campaign message for every election for my whole adult life. And at this point it’s lost all effectiveness.
The real problem was that you can’t run on the other guy being a Nazi after your side just refused to bring them to justice. Biden ran on “the other guy is a Nazi.” But once in power, he didn’t treat them like you’re supposed to treat Nazis. His campaign message was that Trump was a unique threat, but he treated them like ordinary political opposition once he was in office.
Actions speak louder than words. Harris tried to run a campaign that was directly countered by Biden’s actions for the last four years. What was the average voter supposed to conclude but that Democrats were lying about Trump being a Nazi?
This is a condemnation of the average American. We failed an open book test and here you are saying it’s not our fault. Yeah buddy it is.
I think you just like blaming voters. You’re demonstrating the same political proclivities as a Republican who blames the homeless for being homeless. After all, poor people should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right? If they’re poor, it’s their own fault. Why consider any other factors when we could just call lazy people lazy?
Are you fuckin high? Of course it’s the voters and non voters fault.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have to shop for their own groceries.
I haven’t watched Fox News since the early 90’s. Wanna cool up a new fantasy about who I am again? It’s very entertaining for me.
I assume people that repeat stupid republican bullshit are stupid republicans. This seems like a you problem.
Saying “I disagree with weak neoliberal policy instead of progressive reforms” is republican now. Interesting. Thanks for the entertainment!
Then what’s your excuse?
My excuse for what?
This isn’t the flex you think it is. You think you’re saying how much smarter you are to not be tricked but what you are really saying is your leaders can’t win without help from the people you despise.
I’m not flexing. I’m saying most Americans are incredibly stupid. I’m saying a full third of us are outright bigot fascists that actively want to say slurs in public and hate crime minorities. I’m saying another full third of us (you’re in this group) are too stupid or self absorbed to acknowledge that third party and non voters directly contribute to republicans getting elected. Of the remaining third, most don’t vote in Dem primaries so we have no progressive condition. I’m saying that the American Federal government is largely representative of the average American that is too stupid or mean to just vote in their own best interest (which yes for my entire life has meant explicitly voting democrat in every election). You are the American that has earned and deserves Trump. Reevaluate your priorities.
Whats a "D next to a candidates name even mean anymore? Besides limping a system along which doesnt care about any of my issues and sends my taxes to a nazi theocratic foreign country to shoot little starving kids in the head for sport. We need to keep all this going in its current form you are saying, cant allow it to change or fall apart or we’re …bad voters?
Well I’ll be sure to hustle to the polls and make sure I cast my vote for all the “D” branded genociders. Blue no matter who right. Because that will get this system working for me for a change, right? That will get the bribe-taking DNC centrists who have been ignoring the voters to care about us again?
edit: Yeah thats right, downvote and run away. Theres at least a shred of honesty in your lack of response, if not your original posting.
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I voted for Harris, try again. I am at least willing to recognize where her campaign could have done better, because like you, I recognize we need those voters who went 3rd party (or stayed at home) in order to win. Unlike you, I hold leadership accountable for failing to inspire an electorate large enough to win.
Register if needed to vote in the primaries and get everyone you know to do that too and always vote for progressives in the primaries. That’s how you hold leadership accountable, by gaining the actual power to replace it. The democratic party is not a coalition of leftists and progressives. It’s a big tent party filled with everyone from nazi adjacent to the closest thing to a socialist American politics can muster. If all us leftists and progressives actually fuckin voted and otherwise engaged in the electoral process we’d have an actual opposition party. Till then the political reality is that every vote that isn’t for a democrat is explicitly for maga, and repeating fox news criticisms of democrats helps elect republicans.
I vote in the primaries but last I checked there was no primary for harris to be POTUS in the last election cycle. And no, repeating valid criticisms of democrats does not automatically mean you are helping Republicans win. To think that requires a staggering amount of cynicism towards voters that one wonders why you are even trying to reason with said voters
There was, I voted in it, Harris name was on it and everything. There you go with the fox news points again.
Congrats on being on the extreme minority that thinks killing and raping children is morally justified.
Congratulations on voting for Trump, by putting yourself on a moralistic high horse.
I voted for Harris, I’m not campaigning for her literally years after the election though like you are, only a literal pedophile would do that.
You are a petulant child that is complaining that they didn’t have the choice they wanted, years after the fact. Also you are campaigning, therefore you have admitted your Epstien ties.
I don’t campaign for anyone. My beliefs prohibit me from joining a political party. I vote for the lesser evil, as I am an adult who understands that is the best option I’m going to have.
YES BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER ELECTION IN 5 FUCKING MONTHS AND ANOTHER ONE IN TWO YEARS BOTH OF WHICH YOU PEOPLE ARE ALREADY GIVING UP ON BY SUGGESTING WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING AND ELECT MORE PEDOPHILES.
Because you fucking people ‘vote for the lesser evil.’ It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. Things didn’t get better under Obama or Biden. Things got quieter for the middle class Americans that ‘just want to be at brunch.’
Just fucking stop voting for the lesser evil. Vote for the policies you actually fucking want regardless of what colour tie the person has. Congrats you’re actually doing a democracy at that point. What you people are advocating for is objectively not democracy, it’s a dictatorship.
Sure they did. Our economy recovered during Obama’s entire presidency. The numbers literally prove that. The numbers also show we were recovering from COVID better than other 1st world countries during Biden’s term. Obama got affordable healthcare for millions of people who had none, myself included. He brokered the Iran Nuclear Deal. Biden got the largest infrastructure bill in our lifetimes passed. He invested money in clean energy. He got student loans forgiven for millions before the Republicans put a stop to it. At the end of his presidency he was trying to get medical debt removed from credit reports.
To say nothing got better under these presidents indicates you are clueless about politics in your own country.
This is not a winning strategy. If you voted for Jill Stein in the last election, congrats, you got NOTHING. There is no viable 3rd party in the U.S. and there won’t be for a long time, if ever. If you vote solely based on your ideals, you will lose. In this country, it is essentially a guarantee that you will have to make concessions at the ballot box to get SOME of what you want. So the intelligent thing to do is vote for the person most likely to win that can achieve SOME of your demands. I’m speaking about presidential elections in regards to this. I support people who vote 3rd party in local/state elections to help build up alternative options. But if you’re voting 3rd party in a federal election, all you’re doing is proving that you have no idea how American politics works and helping the shittier option win.
I voted in the primaries, I will vote in the general.
You purity testing pedophile supporters keep sitting out elections which is why we can’t fix shit. You have to shove for years, and you guys only care about the general election. I cannot vote for the things I believe in if you keep allowing the establishment to win with milquetoast candidates in the primary.
BTW you just missed voting in the primary to spend time yelling at me, someone that actually DOES ANYTHING AT ALL, rather than voting in a progressive candidate.
And what in the actual fuck do you think you’re talking about?
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What a stupid shitty fuckin troll account.
I’m sorry you’re too stupid to understand people can criticize your chosen pedophile representative.
Some of the non voting idiots keep trying to claim the moral high ground, by claiming that by not voting they opposed the genocide perpetrated by the Israeli government.
Of course that ignores the fact that they default voted for Trump by not voting.
Totally man.
It’s my fault people can’t afford to live in this country.
You and people like you, yes.
When you do work to get republicans elected, like you’re doing right now, then yes it’s your fault explicitly. Being too stupid to understand that cause and effect does not absolve you of your responsibility.
Because anyone paying attention knows that Democrats are always better for our economy. So anyone bitching about the cost of living had a really easy decision to make in 2024.
Democrats may be better for traditional markers of the economy, but 50 years of neoliberalism from both parties has resulted in a K-shaped economy. One that is great if you already have wealth (which is what things like GDP and inflation tell you), but one that is terrible and getting worse if you are a regular person. Neither party has done anything to actually fix the systemic issues that caused this, so when status-quo Dems claim to be better for working people, we can all see that for the lie it is.
It’s ironic that you can’t resist using misogynistic language even as you deny misogyny was a factor.
Imagine someone denying race was a factor while calling her the nword.
IIRC she had outlined some policies in her platform that would have helped with that.
Her and her flying monkeys also gaslit the American people. There was very much a “speak no evil, hear no evil” head-in-the-sand attitude to her whole campaign. The campaign, and liberals on social media, just kept blindly parroting the official CPI figures. They would scream down and downvote to oblivion anyone who dared go against the party line, pointing out the well known flaws of the CPI measurement.
Liberals believe in manifesting. It’s the “power of positive thinking” taken to the extreme, into the realm of toxic positivity. Their belief system is that if you believe a thing hard enough, and if you prevent anyone from saying anything to the contrary, the universe will conspire to make your desired reality come into being. If you shout down any negative criticism, you will win.
That’s what the Harris campaign was like. It was horribly flawed. It had a number of campaign positions that made Harris completely unelectable. They tried to vibe their way to victory. Unfortunately, manifesting isn’t real, and they smacked right into the hard unyielding wall of reality.
Like the $50,000 tax break for small business owners? Lol
That’s pretty specific for an outline
There was essentially no policy to help with cost of living. That’s what I’m trying to point out. That was one of the bullshit policies she was running with. And I fuckin voted for her lol
well policy wise, she did talk about praying and loving her glock. Centrists like to pretend that never happened. She could reach out to the republican-lites about what they wanted to hear but she had not a single care for the priorities of the massive number of progressive voters. And for all that bending over to the “independents” she got almost nothing for the effort and lost massively from her base voters.
Clearly the DNC plans to try that again, and they will lose again. To Rubio, Shapiro or eric trump …or someone else who is almost comically unqualified and impossible to lose to.
I did, too. It was the first time I had ever voted to keep someone else out of the chair. So stupid
Sometimes that’s the way you have to play the game.
Most voters decided to play it stupid. And now here we are.
And yet your strategery didnt work then, did it. Can you even admit that to yourself? and it wont work next time either. Or the time after that.
Good. You did the least stupid thing you could have done in the last election.
I mean politicians always have great ideas until they get elected.
“Concept of a plan” is way better than whatever was in the Dems election program.
People can’t read, intelligence is on a normal distribution. You know where that poster above you is on that curve.
Nope. You’re wrong.
There’s alot of factors that led to where we are now.
It’s not simple at all actually.
Sure thing bud