“Young people increasingly don’t appear to be incredibly dumb, survey finds.”
my experience, that all my collegues who are aroubd 28-35, use a shitload of ai. younger generation is now using it instead of google search.
That’s because they fucked the google search so that ai is the only thing that gives you what you’re looking for. Eventually. After you’ve argued with it.
At least google’s ai will list the sources it’s allegedly drawing from so you can verify it’s hallucinations live.
billionaires tell people to love the thing they are trying to get them hooked on so that they can run a rampant monopoly and make some more billions.
If you remove yourself from the equation maybe there is some chance. So if you really love AI, perhaps fuck off.
Good. Young people are hip to what’s going on and that is uplifting.
With ai hallucinations…Ai fakery and the topmost reason being layoffs being attributed increasingly to AI…I don’t think so there’s anything much to love about AIs. When billionaires tell the society to love something… it’s because there’s 10000% profit for them in that and almost none for us masses.
I’ve been in IT since 2007 I’ve been with computers since 1994 with a second hand MS DOS.
AI is 100 very good for scientists and people in the medical industry (I don’t know why, but I know they’ve all told me it’s good for them). Outside of the above… Everything else about AI is pointless… It’s just googling things slightly faster than I can google things.
Interestingly, in the medical field, I have seen a few headlines, but, I was talking to a guy who works for Mayo Clinic. His job is literally trying to quantify the effects AI is having with the doctors, and talking with him I said the same thing “at least it’s good for the medical field” and he replied with “who told you that? I would actually love to speak with them.” So, I’m not sure how effective it is in the medical field either.
Googling things a bit faster, but now all the sites it is searching are AI generated.
Scientists that use AI aren’t likely to remain good scientists for long.
I mainly use it for comparing products, and finding tools/products that fit my needs (sustainability/longevity/value/complexity/learning curve/beginner friendliness). I find it to be really time saving for this particulqr purpose. Customer service agents should be forgotten by history ASAP.
So your use case for LLMs is the first aspect of them that will be enshittified.
LLMs advocating for products that pay them is step 1 of incoming enshittification.
Also, anyone that has ever talked to customer service of any kind knows that the “automated” stuff is the absolute worst and you want a human most of the time.
Prepare to get downvoted and get critical comments. People really hate llms here. It’s just as annoying as the people on the flipside.
your pet rock has advice for you
You shouldn’t trust billionaires at all. Even the “good ones”. You don’t get a billion <insert currency here> net worth without exploiting people
Hungary in 1946.
Zimbabwe in 2008.
Germany 1923.
Even Paul McCartney? 👉👈
Mess with his monopoly and he’ll send armed men after you.
Really 😲?
You’re absolutely right!
Especially Paul McCartney
Life could be hard, but then…
Ask Yoko
I mean, the marketing people should have been able to tell management that too.
Never underestimate me how out of touch business management can be.
There’s a saying- corporate consultants are people who charge millions to tell you what your employees and customers have been trying to tell you for free.
I don’t trust anyone who is impressed by LLMs enough to consider them to be in any way adjacent to intelligence.
You are absolutely right! Should I create a list of people who you should not trust?
Why would that be necessary? They’ll freely and readily identify themselves.
They were responding as an LLM would, as a joke.
OK, I don’t use them. Thanks for the explanation.
How do you define intelligence? If LLMs are not intelligent NO other animal could ever be considered intelligent and many humans in the lower percentiles too. And that percentile is only going up.
For starters, an LLM wouldn’t even survive in the body of a small insect. They’re incompetent at everything.
Prove me wrong. Make an LLM-powered insect that buys more LLM-powered insects. Have it demonstrate any fitness at all.
Intelligence can be defined as sentience or sapience. LLMs lack both (they just regurgitate information and have neither understanding nor self-awareness).
I mean, if your argument is just semantics, that’s just… pedantic.
You could draw that line anywhere. The NPCs I play against in a strategy game could be “intelligence.”
You know what people mean. People are talking about ~anthropic cognition, which is clearly not what’s going on in current LLMs. They can do intelligent things, maybe they are an “intelligent” by some definition you define, but they are not even close to animalistic cognition.
You and others here act as if this is some clear cut thing, while actually defining it is extremely hard and everything but clear cut.
I find it scary how many people here are blindly against LMMs directly (not the big companies behind them or whatever) with about as much irrational hate as the people they despise, like Trump. They act the same way. Saying LMMs are not intelligent is so absurd I am not sure how to go forward, such a statement is oozing with bias.
I’m not againt LLMs. They’re usefull tools, and I’ve been tinkering with them since 2021, and generative ML before that. I have one loaded on my desktop pretty much all the time; DeepseekV4 0731 is running, right this second.
I use them all the time. I hack at them as a hobby; I know how useful they can be.
But you’re stopping just short of calling them “alive.” They’re not even close, not even in the same universe. They do tasks with intelligence or some variant of that, but they are not intelligent. And I’m not trying to be pedantic, that is a loaded term that implies cognition and adaptability they do not have.
They’re basically the same thing as weather prediction models, but for text output. They’re just a model.
And I think its very dangerous when people fall into the trap of thinking they are, fundamentally, more than that. That’s the fantasy Altman and such are selling the public, to con them.
Hence, the article above ^. What’s coming out of these leaders’ mouths does not match what people are getting, and they can tell. And that’s because the premise they’re being sold, of “artificial intelligence,” is a lie.
with about as much irrational hate as the people they despise, like Trump.
Thanks for outing yourself. Makes it easy to just skip the conversation and not bother trying to open up a conversation made in bad faith.
Thanks for proving my point, your service is invaluable.
LLMs are explosively imprecise, statistically luke-warm, grey goo extrusion sphincters. They can’t produce anything novel, at best they can reveal potentially plausible information from the data they were trained on, which then requires proven domain expertise to validate.
Intelligence requires comprehension, a trait LLMs are intrinsically incapable of performing.
Define comprehension then.
Understanding, context[0].
Computers are particularly adept at iteration, and LLMs are an application that leverages this effectively. To wit, I’ll concede LLMs are ‘AI’, where that initialisation represents Accelerated Iteration, or in management as Amplified Incompetence, but as an example of Intelligence, that remains for those who are proud of their lack of the naturally occurring variety.
[0]: to frame a larger memory pool as a ‘context window’ is a misnomer, as context requires understanding and comprehension.
Most people don’t consider animals to have intelligence (outside of some apes) which is why they’re readily used as food.
If you’re old enough you likely learned in school that animals aren’t intelligent or capable of consciousness or self-awareness. None of those things are true.
They’re used as food because that’s how people have been socialized. Nobody would willingly eat a dog, but they would eat a pig. Pigs are more intelligent than dogs.
They’re already dumber than the older generations, but hey, we can make the problem even worse. Why not.
I’m gonna have to work until I’m 110 years old probably just to keep the following generations fed and clothed… and I bet at least one of you morons will think “it’s the billionaires’ fault”. Try to actually read a real book.
and I bet at least one of you morons will think “it’s the billionaires’ fault”.
Well, yeah, you’re kinda right. It’s the system that creates these billionaires fault. One of the reasons I dislike all the guillotine memery a bit (although I find it pretty funny) is because just unaliving Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk won’t help in the long run. The system is gonna continue to produce these kind of psychopaths.
Do you get paid by billionaires to simp for them or are you just doing it for free?
No longer surprised, as the Butlerian Jihad should ever expand.
Most everything I do is local but I don’t trust AI anymore than I trust any other tool. If it gives code that works or instructions to do what I need great. Even when it’s wrong I’m learning something new.
I totally agree about the billionaires. I absolutely don’t trust these dickheads running the shit show… Sam Altman, Jensen Huang, Elon Musk, Dario Amodei, Sundar Pichai, Satya Nadella, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison… Fuck everyone of these guys. Everyone of them is a rich asshole trying to scheme as much as they can out of the system. I think their end goal is to put people out of work so they can automate as much as possible so they don’t rely on anything else. If AGI or superintelligence arrives within the decade, whoever controls it controls the economy that follows. It will be such a game changer nobody is even close to prepared for it.
Go read “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream” by Harlan Ellison, Hyperion by Dan Simmons, Colossus by D.F. Jones, or maybe Accelerando by Charles Stross. None of these end well.
Us old people as well.
Its me! I am young again!
Nice. What do you think about AI?
