• ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    13 hours ago

    Cool they “hired” but if they fail the tests then they won’t be hired. Which is the main issue. People fail out of the school, because it’s hard and stressful.

  • uncommoncorvid@piefed.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    66
    ·
    20 hours ago

    so i have a little bit of insight into this whole thing. i got a few friends who are controllers and i’ve been in the hiring process myself for nearly 2 years. to save you the history of the hiring process of the last few years: long. duffy “supercharged” the hiring process last year, making it take a lot less time than it used to (months instead of years).

    anyway, we don’t actually know if 2000 “gamers” got hired from this latest bid, they’re just saying that because they were catering to gamers with the advertisement (which was majority genAI content lmao). if you applied to the bid, you’re automatically a gamer.

    now a few things on what this means for us and the safety of aviation. the minimum requirements are as follows: do you have a pulse? can you obtain a security clearance? do you not have any medical problems that will make you unfit to do the job? have you not taken any federally illegal drugs in the last few years? can you do a few basic math problems? if you can answer yes to all of these questions, you get hired. that’s what the 2000 number is.

    when you get hired by the FAA, those 2000 people don’t immediately get to go control traffic at the busiest airport. all ATC candidates must go to the FAA’s training academy in OKC for 3-4 months to learn how to control traffic. it’s designed to train someone who doesn’t even know what a plane is to the basics of controlling traffic, phraseology and proper procedures and all. not everyone makes it through the academy and is a large percent of the attrition rate for applicants.

    only after all that do they go to a real facility, but not like LAX. and then they learn some more before touching live traffic.

    so overall, i’m not super worried about it. only the people who are actually capable will get though and even then, it will be well over a year before they are controlling on their own if they don’t fail training at their facility

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 hours ago

        What bogus hysteria. Do you have any idea how many people play video games? Would you expect them not to advertise a recruitment drive on television because we don’t want our air traffic controllers to just kick up their feet and watch the screens? Let’s not be idiots.

        It’s far more interesting to ask why they need to advertise a recruitment drive. The profession has been losing skilled people because its high skill, high stress, high stakes, and their paycheck gets jerked around every time there’s a government shutdown. Let’s focus on that instead of clutching our pearls over them hiring people who have played video games before.

      • uncommoncorvid@piefed.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        15 hours ago

        about 6 months minimum before they’re allowed to talk to real planes, a year and a half minimum after that before they are out on their own. the academy will get rid of a lot of people who truly are not cut out for this type of work, and facility training will get rid of more. tbh i’m not super worried because the job is do it by the book or find another job. if they don’t do it right, they won’t be talking to real traffic for very long if at all

    • nehal3m@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      36
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      “We cannot take a print of your anus, therefore we are blocking you”

    • LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      21 hours ago

      Fox 21 is a local affiliate of Fox based in Duluth, MN. It’s a regional news source for Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota.

      I seriously doubt they get enough traffic from GDPR regulated countries to retrofit their entire site to be compliant when it is targeted for a very specific audience in the US.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 hours ago

        they don’t need to retrofit their entire website. GDPR does not require the website to do anything, it requires websites to not do certain greedy things. that’s all. that’s the nice thing, they could just remove all the tracking code and they are compliant.

      • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        11 hours ago

        Yes, but also, it is sad you can automatically safely assume a news site that we only want to display our news will be handling a fuck-ton of our personal information. If it just showed the news and non-targeted ads, it wouldn’t need a retrofit. GDPR wouldn’t apply.

    • 87Six@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      23 hours ago

      There should be an extension that prevents you from risking your privacy accessing an american site that does this

      Then again americans wouldn’t be able to access 90% of their internet so maybe it would be pointless

  • owl@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    130
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 day ago

    “Seattle Approach, Cherokee 8121K, 20 southwest of Seattle VOR at 7,500, en route Arlington, request transit Class Bravo airspace.”
    -“LMAO, shut the fuck up *****. Why don’t you get gud at being a pilot instead of being carried under tower from support every time looser?”

    • justsomeguy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      94
      ·
      1 day ago

      female pilot voice

      [most vile stream of misogynistic insults she’s ever heard followed by screeching]

            • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              8 hours ago

              Historically, when vision tests actually mattered, I could see that. These days most commercial flights could be piloted by practically blind people, outside of “jamming accidents” caused by the military, since the planes can see and detect everything better than any human, and we finally have the final approach lasers installed at every US airport.

              These days it should probably be female dominated, just because statistically speaking women are being hired more frequently than men across the entirety of the job market.

  • Siegehammer85@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    63
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Please at let be the ones that are the hardcore MS flight sim nerds, they do have many who take it super serious at least.

  • Free Trampoline!?@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Plane Landed!


    style: 4500

    substance: 4500

    speed: 4000

    civilian health: 5000 PERFECT

    rings collected: 5000 PERFECT

    black box: INTACT

    Grade: A

    “A?! A?? wtf do you even want!? WHERE’S MY GODDAMN S-RANK!?”

    throws controller

    • rmuk@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      23 hours ago

      Hi guys! Welcome back. So today we’re going to see if we can trigger that unsigned integer underflow bug that some of you have been talking about. As you can see here I’ve already got an Iberia Airbus A380 heading perfectly due West towards Null Island and, thanks to the telemetry bug we found last week that still hasn’t been patched we’ve got it showing as a two-seater Cessna so the occupation rate is 15000% so what were going to do is get the latitude, longitude and altitude to all cross zero at the same time…

      • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        19 hours ago

        “Atlanta Center, Delta 412, descending through flight level 190, vector for runway 26 Right.”

        “Delta 412, copy. Hold your horses, bad connection on your end, total dial-up energy.”

        “Atlanta Center, American 805, five miles behind Delta 412, also requesting 26 Right.”

        “American 805, radar contact. Wait, you guys are practically sniffing each other’s tailpipes, this spacing is absolute dogshit.”

        “American 805, we can go around and vector back if—”

        “Nah, speedrun mode activated. Both of you cleared land 26 Right, first one down gets the lobby win! LEeeerrrooooyyyyy mmmmmmJjjeeennnkkkiinnnsssss!!!”

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      19 hours ago

      throws controller

      Steve looked up from the corner of the tower. “What the hell, man? I didn’t know you could pick me up, but what the hell? Just toss me like that? Jesus, dude, calm the fuck down!”

  • batcheck@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    35
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    Bunch of air traffic controllers blaming their teammates for EVERY crash incoming

    • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      1 day ago

      “You were supposed to cover me, wtf and you call yourself prestige 8 on cod? I’ve seen bots smarter than you.”

  • quarkquasar@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    I’m glad I don’t know more about aviation and human nature so I don’t have to worry about this as much as it probably warrants.

    People who are used to not facing real consequences, directing 200-ton metal tubes full of humans through the air above us?

    Probably fine.

  • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    I found a glitch. When you crash a few planes on the other runways, all the traffic has to go over a single one. Still the same traffic and points but way easier to manage