• Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
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    Drone tech has had exactly the same effect machine guns and precise artillery had in WW1: an advantage of the defense over the offense, which turns the war into one of attrition.
    Neither side is able to do sweeping maneuvers and break through defensive lines until the other side’s ability to fight is completely exhausted.
    This war won’t end before Putin is gone, one way or the other.

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      Why would that be, that drone warfare advantages defense?

      WW1 era weapons advancements like machine guns advantaged defense, because these new weapons were not easily mobile. But drones are extremely mobile.

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        The main difference between WWI and Today’s trench warfare the the level of intelligence available, combined with the ability to precision-strike.

        It’s interesting because drones are very mobile, able to be deployed close to the front, and extremely deadly, but simultaneously limited. The heavier payload ones can also be longer range, but counter-UAV technology (mostly jamming) makes these harder to use. In comparison, the shorter-range drones can be sent via cable - impossible to jam, but limited flight distance due to the trailing wire + weight.

        The application of drones on the battlefield also favors the defender. The small-payload drones are exceptional at taking out moving vehicles and light infantry, and overhead imagery (via drone or satellite) is nearly omnipresent. With neither side able to secure complete air power, the normal target softening approach of airstrikes followed by troop movement isn’t viable, and then drones take out even the most spread-out groups moving forward. The result is that the doctrinal 3:1 attacker ratio that favors defenders is even more lopsided with drones. I fear that we’ll see a greatly increased use of autonomous weaponry as a result, which is extremely dangerous for humanity.

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          The long range ones are increasingly small aircraft running on dead reckoning for final or loss of comms, ie. Jamming has very little effect at this point.

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        Why would that be, that drone warfare advantages defense?

        For an offensive action you need to concentrate enough forces and material in one area to achieve a breakthrough.
        In Ukraine, there is now a “grey area” between the fronts which neither side controls but is permanently patrolled by drones, similar to WW1’s “no-mans-land”.
        It’s up to 20-30km wide, and any vehicle entering it is destroyed by drone swarms.
        Crossing it on foot takes up to a week, and less than 10% make it through alive.
        This makes it impossible to bring heavy equipment to the actual front line for an assault, or even re-supply your soldiers hiding in trenches there.

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    ITT: People uncritically reading Ukrainian state propaganda saying the same thing it has been saying since the beginning of the war and has to say in order to maintain its funding sources and willing partners.

    Look I’m not just a ml who loves Russia, I am just someone who reads a story like this and sees it for what it is- state propaganda saying state propaganda. It is pretty funnysad the same people who will cheer this article will look at RT and scream about how it is Ruzzian state lies.

    This is a war. You can’t trust either sides propaganda. This is not independent, not verified and not really journalism

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      oh yes. it’ll change alright. it’ll change to russia losing even more territory ;p

      putin is sure to announce one day that ukraine taking back crimea and crushing all russian forces within its borders will have “put them right where we want them!” and that it was all part of his ‘brilliant’ strategic planning.

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    is that why RUSSIA " is researching ways of forcing the territories they already hold to be permanent" recently.

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    Brilliant! Ukraine is today in a better position than at any time before in the war. I hope eu can continue to increase support and by doing so create a new European defence paradigm with Ukraine at it’s core.

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            At the core of the defense paradigm. Since Ukraine has a gigantic military (currently more personnel than even France), pretty cutting edge work on drone and anti-drone warfare and has been fighting for years against the EU’s biggest land threat. They’re not saying Ukraine is at the core of Europe the continent…

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              Why is Russia the “EU’s biggest land threat”?

              That’s exactly the point. Allying with Ukraine is the main thing that drives that.

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            Now try reading the entire sentence!

            spoiler

            Ukraine is at the core of the defence paradigm … not the core of Europe.

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              Defense of what? Using words you don’t understand doesn’t change the fact you haven’t defined what you’re trying to say.

              Which is basically a tautology that just sees fighting Russia as a good thing on its own, but without any reason given.

              So again, sit down and actually think about what you’re trying to say. You’ll come off far less stupid.

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        It’s the only one that has real experience with modern warfare and technology in this century. So they have know how.

        It’s going to be the outpost for the new EU/Nato does not matter where it geographically is, maybe you took that too literally.

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          Why does Europe want to ally with Ukraine? That will cause the conflict with Russia that you’re presumably saying we need defense against.

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            cause conflict with Russia

            Are you talking about a new conflict and not the current literal invasion? Because they kinda already crossed that bridge. Then it got blown up like 2 or 3 times.

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            Europe includes Ukraine, and they are already allies, just without a mutual defense agreement.

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                  “Europe” is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to “Europe”, which is what the conversation you’re responding to is about, is a mystery at best.

                  The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it’s a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable.

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        the United States is halfway around the world, that doesn’t stop us from projecting power

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      Why is stuff like this allowed but if I were to call for the death of every israeli soldier I would probably get banned?

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        To be fair i DID SAY preferably alive so it’s literally true that i did the opposite of call for their death :p They need to go home though. Back home to Russia. Not Ukraine.

        That said, I DO IN FACT believe the Jewish peoples should have a safe nation to live in. ISRAEL IS NOT SUCH A PLACE. They should go back to Europe and stop trying to colonize indigenous people. Or hell, I would LOVE for them to live right here in New England! I will in fact NOT shoot rockets at them because I want them to live in peace and safety HERE, FAR AWAY FROM PALESTINE

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        I’ve seen “Death Death To The IDF” on here plenty of times. I also don’t believe that wishing death on people who participate in unmitigated genocide should be frowned upon.

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          But they said they wanted the russian soldiers to die, not the russian military to be dissolved. “Death to the IDF” is against the institution IDF not singular soldiers.

          And don’t forget the dehumanising language which certainly would have gotten me banned if I said the same about Israelis (at least on lemmy.world).

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              Are you intentionally misunderstanding my point? I didn’t make any negative statements about people of certain nationalities or ethnicities. I just mentioned a hypothetical to show the racism and hypocrisy of the original commenter and the mods

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    Take it all and do better for the people within

    Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

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      wont be satisfied until crimea is theres again. China can chip and retak historic lands, “norther manchuria”, although they are pretty much taking over russia economically(through thier natural resources in thier remote regions.

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        Yeah, people see China sending stuff to Russia and think they’re helping, because they’ve been told they’re “allies”. China is gaining a lot from Russia’s failure though. If they don’t actually take over land by the end of this, they will effectively control all the resources in large parts of modern day Russia.

        I saw a comment not too long ago about how China should convince Russia to get out of the war, as if it’s harming China. People just don’t understand the geopolitics going on. I don’t expect them to, but people should at least be aware no state is doing anything out of kindness. It’s always at least attempting to benefit themselves. For Europe, Ukraine losing would be a horrible result, for example. There may be a humanitarian aspect, but there’s always something being gained.

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          No bc pootin won’t allow China to take over.

          Lol it’d be wild to see China own Russia and a lot of Chinese ppl move in.

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            What do you mean he won’t allow it? If it’s literally selling it off for military aid, which is something he critically needs, that seems exactly like something he’d do.

            I don’t see many people moving into Siberia no matter who owns it though. Few people live there, and few want to. It’ll mostly be for control of waterways and resources, but also for strategic control to push Russia away from its more critical locations.

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          If they don’t actually take over land by the end of this, they will effectively control all the resources in large parts of modern day Russia.

          China has plenty of land already. Why would they officially want something with piss poor infrastructure and corrupt officials. It’s a lot easier just to buy what they want, specially now when Russia doesn’t really have an option but to sell. It’s also politically much, much more easier than actually moving borders. Also, that’s what China has been doing already for quite a while in Africa (and likely in other places too).

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            Are you kidding? China has always wanted the eastern part of Russia. Also, China not wanting it would apply to Russia too, right? If it’s worthless, why is anyone claiming it? It obviously isn’t worthless. At minimum, control of the coast and rivers are valuable. There’s also tons of natural resources there.

            It’s a lot easier just to buy what they want, specially now when Russia doesn’t really have an option but to sell. It’s also politically much, much more easier than actually moving borders.

            That is buying what they want. And moving borders isn’t that hard. They just need to reach an agreement. It’s not like they have physically go and move some line. Borders don’t exist in reality. It’s just what states agree to say they control. The biggest issue would be going in and collecting taxes and whatnot. China’s got the beurocratic infrastructure to handle that pretty easily though, and it’s not like there’s many people or much wealth (in the people) there anyway. It’s all about the resources. Like you said, they’ve been doing it in Africa. Why wouldn’t they do it in their backyard?

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              And moving borders isn’t that hard.

              It actually kind of is. Depending on the laws on both countries. There was a petition that Norway would’ve gifted a top of one mountain to Finland when Finland celebrated 100 years of independence. Border would’ve moved something like 20 meters in the middle of nowhere, without any resources or pretty much anything else of any value. It would’ve just made the officially highest spot in Finland a bit higher.

              It just wasn’t legally possible. Constitution in Norway says that the only way to lose land is to lose it in a war and changing their constitution isn’t really practical just for that kind of feat. Also there was more or less serious discussion that what if Finland claims a “war” against Norway and conquers that hilltop, but that would’ve meant that Finland (not a NATO member at a time) would be in a war with a NATO country, which is not trivial either.

              There was also legal issues on Finland side of things too, but those would’ve been far simpler to resolve.

              I don’t know about legal situation in Russia nor in China, so that might not apply, but in general countries tend to have legal limits on how they can lose or gain land. China has not annexed areas from Africa, they’ve just bought the rights for resources and use them as they see fit, but internationally agreed borders stay where they are. If they actually took land from Russia that would cause other kinds of legal issues, like having to build stuff in there to meet their legal minimum standards, set up administration and whatever their legal system requires. So, in many ways it’s just far easier to buy what they want and leave the border and land ownership politics out of the equation.

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    Typical western propaganda . But Russia keeps take lands if even it is too slow . Russia depleted but Ukraine too !

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    Zelensky is a traitor to Ukrainians. He’s making deals with the US and helping Israel. I don’t believe we’re being told everything anymore. If the world wanted to stop Putin and help Ukraine, they would. I’m not denying reality - Russia did invade Ukraine. However, the world betrayed Ukraine in 2014 when they let Russia take Crimea. This is just an exercise in supporting military industrial complex. There was an attack in Romania just a few days ago, and NATO did absolutely nothing (and as somebody from the Netherlands it’s my duty to say - fuck Rutte, goddamn traitor).

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      Sigh.

      I don’t want to even respond, but did you check with Ukrainians if they think Zelensky is a traitor?

      What aren’t we told? A grand conspiracy? Everything is being told, everything, you just need to listen.

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      Why do you have a brand new account? What happened to treehuggers 1-5?

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      If Putin hadn’t decided to forcibly annex parts of Ukraine in the first place, many Russian sons would still be alive and Zelenskyy perhaps wouldn’t be seeking help from the “wrong” people (not that I think that’s an entirely valid way to think about it.)

      And as best as I can tell Zelenskyy is not in favour of the way Israel is going about what they’re doing in Palestine, and I’m sure he very much recognises the parallels with what’s happening to his own country.

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        yeah, pretty sure zelenskyy looks at what israel is doing to a palestine and recognizes it as what russia wants to do to ukraine. He’s not going to be friendly toward a country that embodies russia’s aspirations for brutality.

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          He has said he wants Ukraine to be a “big Israel”. That was 2022. Israel was just as bad back then, as it has been since it was created.

          Ukrainians broadly favour Israel, but since the latest genocide younger people increasingly support Palestine.

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        Putin doesnt care about the non-muscovites and st.petersberg, hes mostly sending the ethnic russians/poorer regions to thier deaths.

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        Early on Zelensky supported Israel (I remember because I was very dissapointed).

        Later on he just shut up about it, which I take it as the pragmatical position of not wanting to lose support of two large very pro-Israel allies - the US and Germany - by voicing criticism of Israel whilst at the same time not wanting to actually support Israel after it was clear they were commiting a Genocide.

        As we remember from the whole “did you even thank us” circus at the White Wouse, he is a person who has had to endure a ton of bullshit for the sake of his nation.

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      Iran is supplying drones to russia. Of course they aren’t on their side.

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          Ukraine offered to help defend Iran’s neighbouring countries against drone attacks since they have experience with that. Also ukraine has issues with Israel as well, they are buying stolen ukrainian grain from russia.

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            Iran is not attacking neighboring countries. They are attacking US military bases in those countries. It’s self defense. If those countries want to be US bitches, then they should reap what they sowed

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              Iran is not attacking neighboring countries. They are attacking US military bases in those countries.

              Absolutely delusional

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                  • Crowne Plaza Hotel, Manama 1 March 2026
                  • Bahrain International Airport 1 March 2026
                  • Mina Salman Port 2 March 2026
                  • Port of Duqm 1 March 2026
                  • Fairmont The Palm, Palm Jumeirah, Dubai 28 February 2026
                  • Etihad Towers complex 1 March 2026
                  • Amazon Web Services data centre 1 March 2026

                  Riiiiiiight

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              The fact that the US is an extremist authoritarian regime does not excuse the fact that Iran is an extremist authoritarian regime. Iran is gladly attacking gulf countries. They’ve been wanting to do that for decades and finally they have an excuse to do it.

              The sad part is that civilians are getting killed in this war between authoritarian narcissists.

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              Not even remotely close to a valid response to what they said.

              Reread, every word.

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              I mean, fine. Just saying what Ukraine offered. I don’t think zelensky betrayed anyone. Offering to help defend things is something else than bombing someone.

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                Kinda sounds like Zelensky is doing what he needs to do to survive, and if that means allying with Israel then so be it, because he has his own country to deal with.
                And he’s right to do so. Zelensky’s job is to kick the Russians out of his country, he has to do whatever it takes to make that happen, and he has to put the lives of his citizens first. Yes it sucks but he has to stop the genocide in his own country.
                War is a terrible thing, leaders have to make terrible decisions.

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                  It’s insane that some people think Zelensky should make a stand against Israel. Like wtf. He has other priorities right now.

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                  Yeah I think he is doing excellent considering the situation. And he’s not even working with Israel I think considering they are fucking then over by buying stolen grain from Russia.

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          Can’t imagine Ukraine would harbor terribly much sympathy for Iran given the tens of thousands of Shahed drones that have been bombarding their cities that were either made in Iran or based on Iranian drone designs licensed to Russia. They probably figure that if Iran was fine starting this by selling such weapons to Russia that were certain to be used on Ukraine, then turnabout is fair play. They have basically no economy in Ukraine so they’re desperate for any way to make a buck to put back into military production for fending off their gigantic neighbor, anyway.

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          TRUMP attacked Iran. The rest of us want nothing to do with it. Only about 6 people support this war, and all of them are MAGA traitors

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            The US state attacked Iran. They have been planning this since 1979. I do not blame American people for it. But putting the blame on only Trump lets the real culprits escape from questions unscathed.

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            Trump won the popular vote. Period. You can’t have your country elect a pedonazi and then pretend like he is not your democratically elected president. He always have at least 40% of the population approval. He’s the potus and represents the US.

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              No he didn’t, he cheated, and EVERYBODY knows it! This ridiculous idea that the only time in his entire life that he didn’t cheat on anything was the one election that he had to win to avoid a life sentence in prison, and he had the assistance of his two best friends Putin and Musk with the best financed and experienced hacking teams on the planet, but he chose to play it “Fair & Square,” because that’s the kind of guy he is.

              Anyone who believes that deserves to get conned.

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                I’d like to believe you but do you have any kinf of proof that this happened? Otherwise it would be just like him, whem he claims h won against Biden. I have no doubt that he will cheat, now that he is president, but I don’t think he did at the last election. Maga is a real thing, half of the US is facsist.

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              All true, but It’s all about perspective. Trump won the election promising repeatedly that he wouldn’t start new wars, and would in fact end wars.

              And depending on which polls you follow, the approval rating for the attacks on Iran are as low as 27% (Reuters/Ipsos, March 2026). But all polls conclude that the majority of US citizens do not support the war.

              So this is definitely not something the US voters directly signed up for. Voting for a president is not a mandate for that president to operate on wholesale deception.

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                  The only good thing about his first term was he didn’t start new wars and he did, obliquely, end the war in Afghanistan with his petty checkmate Biden penultimate act in office.

                  Americans should have known he was a lying liar who lies but that part was true at the time.

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              This may come as a shock to you, but he wasn’t unanimously voted in as president. There are tens of millions of us that actively voted against him. Those that did and do support him can’t pretend like this isn’t the consequences of their actions, but the rest of us sure as shit can.

              Even among the traitors and idiots that did vote for him, even the majority of those don’t agree with his war in Iran.

              Have you have lived somewhere where you didn’t agree with your democratically elected official? It’s possible to be critical of that person’s actions and not be culpable for them.

              Unfortunately, you are correct that he does represent the US, and that’s damage that will probably outlast my lifetime, but representation doesn’t mean reflection, and his actions don’t reflect the majority opinion in the US right now.

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                I voted in every election in my province/county for the past 20 years and none of the party I’ve voted for have ever been elected. I don’t like either of my Prime Ministers, federal and provincal, but they have been democratically elected and are my representatives. trump his your president, stop acting like he’s not and fix your own mess.

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                  I explicitly stated that he does represent the US, but that many of us didn’t vote for him or support him. Both can be and are true. We don’t want a war in Iran, but as you’ve pointed out, Trump was democratically elected, and there are processes to stop the war. Unfortunately, it’s not anything we can kick off as citizens.

                  There are protests, but when your healthcare and that of your family is tied to your employment, missing work to protest is a good way to not have a job, income, or healthcare. It’s not a simple as, “make change happen”.

                  Generalizing an entire population is a weak and shitty argument. You can do it if you want, but it just makes you look narrow minded and out of touch with how the world actually works.

                  The whole point is that the entire US doesn’t want a war with Iran and most don’t, even those that voted for Trump in hindsight don’t want it. They fucked us and got the country to this point, but war with Iran isn’t a popular opinion regardless of past actions.