NRA been quiet right

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
    142·
    7 days ago

    So we should start calling ICE to report fashy gun owners are harboring illegal aliens, yes?

    Maybe even illegal aliens with blogs that are critical of fascism.

  • PoPoP@lemm.ee
    155·
    7 days ago

    Literally everyone I know who is in favor of 2A is against this. They’re “being real quiet” because you don’t interact with them and have no line of communication with them outside of Twitter trolls

      • PoPoP@lemm.ee
        21·
        6 days ago

        Why would you expect someone to put their life on the line for you when you spout off about them all being lunatics? They’re at home with their family ready to protect their own home from tyranny as it comes to their own front door. They’re not assembling an army to take care of you too. You hate them, so defend yourself if you want to.

        Besides, my entire point is about how fucking stupid it is to be all like “I’m not hearing anything from those people I never talk to, curious isn’t it?” I literally do not care in the slightest about a might-as-well-be-copypasted rant I’ve heard 10000 times from people who might as well be the exact same person as you.

          • PoPoP@lemm.ee
            2·
            6 days ago

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the actual fuck is wrong with you.

              • PoPoP@lemm.ee
                2·
                5 days ago

                You don’t actually think saying crazy shit like this to people is going to change anyone’s mind about anything do you? If anything this kind of talk makes people more entrenched in their opinions. So you’re just venting, which is understandable, but you’re wrong to take it out on a stranger regardless of if you think a political disagreement makes them subhuman. You need therapy.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    121·
    7 days ago

    Who would’ve guessed that people overly obsessed with firearms and very vocal about their obsession had small dicks.

  • CitizenBrain@lemm.ee
    71·
    6 days ago

    I live in the rural area of one of the most red states.

    I am also as far left as someone can be before the horseshoe turns into authoritarianism again.

    The left is armed. We just have the decades of experience necessary to know that you don’t advertise your capabilities. Especially in an open forum like the fucking internet.

        • bus_factor@lemmy.world
          4·
          7 days ago

          I haven’t seen a single soul on the left argue for ignoring the constitution, and if you have I’d love to see where you got that from. At most you’d see leftist arguing that the militias of 2A should be well regulated like the constitution literally says.

          Also, people on the left complain about stuff Democrat presidents do all the time. It’s how Democrats keep losing elections. What kind of constitutional overreach are you referring to which didn’t get complaints from the left? I’d genuinely love to know, because I clearly missed it.

    • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
      16·
      7 days ago

      Yeah, like seat belts in cars, right? Why the fuck is that mandatory? Who cares if I get ejected from my car in an accident. It’s my body my choice, amirite? Why the fuck are child safety seats mandatory in cars for carrying babies and small children when we can simply carry them on our lap in the passenger seat? Why even have all these stupid driving laws? Can’t we just drive anyway we want without having to wait for a stupid light to go green? That’s all government overreach.

      /s

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    1322·
    8 days ago

    They’re fine with tyranny as long as they see it as “their” tyranny. And they’ll still be blaming the gays and the immigrants when they themselves are dragged off to the gulag.

  • Miles O'Brien@startrek.websiteEnglish
    1141·
    8 days ago

    Armed minorities are harder to oppress.

    Organized armed minorities make governments afraid.

    Get organized, train.

    It’s that or lie down and take it.

    • KMAMURI@lemmy.world
      221·
      7 days ago

      I told Americans for weeks now to go meet minorities in their communities, offer to help them organize and arm. Then help them resist.

      They’ll fight you about it.

      I’ve been called every name you can imagine. Told they would all be killed in the streets (very possible I admit but not the point), I was reported a lot and given bans for inciting violence. Many of those posts have subsequently been deleted. I was attacked so much I shut my original account and use two new accounts so I don’t unintentionally dox myself.

      Now it’s pretty common to see these comments.

      • andros_rex@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 days ago

        Tyranny is when the government doesn’t recognize my right as the divine head of my family and king of my castle - not allowing me to expose others to infectious disease, forcing me to ensure that my children learn how to read and count, stopping me from buying a gun after beating my wife, and denying me the ability to purchase something that has been marketed specifically to my Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ivermectin, raw milk, probably fucking asbestos eventually); while having the gall to allow black people to vote and gay people to get married.

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
    721·
    8 days ago

    This is that tyranny you were always talking about

    Reminds me of Alex Jones; or to be more precise, of the KnowledgeFight (play on InfoWars) podcast. All through 2025 they are commenting on Alex’ praise of Trumplon: “You should know that this is exactly what you pretended to be fighting against all those years.”

    It really shows that the alt-right and related movements were never about freedom. It’s always been about the hate, mostly hate of others.

    • andros_rex@lemmy.world
      71·
      8 days ago

      Alex Jones on the Patriot Act in 2003

      The bill itself is stamped “Confidential - Not for Distribution.” Upon reading the analysis and bill, I was stunned by the scientifically crafted tyranny contained in the legislation. The Justice Department Office of Legislative Affairs admits that they had indeed covertly transmitted a copy of the legislation to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, (R-Il) and the Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney as well as the executive heads of federal law enforcement agencies.

      […]

      SECTION 501 (Expatriation of Terrorists) expands the Bush administration’s “enemy combatant” definition to all American citizens who “may” have violated any provision of Section 802 of the first Patriot Act. (Section 802 is the new definition of domestic terrorism, and the definition is “any action that endangers human life that is a violation of any Federal or State law.”) Section 501 of the second Patriot Act directly connects to Section 125 of the same act. The Justice Department boldly claims that the incredibly broad Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act isn’t broad enough and that a new, unlimited definition of terrorism is needed.

      […]

      SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition process and allows officers of the Homeland Security complex to extradite American citizens anywhere they wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly take individuals out of foreign countries.

      […]

      SECTION 402 is titled “Providing Material Support to Terrorism.” The section reads that there is no requirement to show that the individual even had the intent to aid terrorists.

      • LePoisson@lemmy.world
        51·
        8 days ago

        Not gonna click anything from a jesus-is-savior domain but I think it’s blatantly obvious Alex Jones is a huckster that peddled supplements and lies.

        Occasionally he might have accidentally made a salient point but he has never been and never will be a good source of information. It’s ironic his show’s name is also what he’s doing, fighting a war on information and truth with his bullshit and lies.

        • andros_rex@lemmy.world
          71·
          7 days ago

          The point is this

          “You should know that this is exactly what you pretended to be fighting against all those years.”

          Alex Jones has always been a fucking nut, but the beliefs he holds now are antithetical to the beliefs he had then. There was a brief period where he was popular in more left leaning circles because criticism of the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq was not popular, and he was genuinely one of the first and loudest voices.

          The concerning this is that he is cheering for things that he would have actively decried then. Before Trump was the nominee, he was not pro Trump. There is something strange with these MAGA cult figures - where their beliefs are subsumed into a devotion to their God figure.

  • Wilco@lemm.eeEnglish
    452·
    8 days ago

    Well … The 2nd ammendment friendly liberals are smart enough not to post “come get sum ya dirty Nazi asshats” or say how they might be looking forward to defending their home against armed trespassers (ICE without a warrant). That stuff leads to trouble, or might look bad in court.

    People know this is bad. History shows this only ends in violence. There is no way to vote our way out of this, these people either get overthrown/arrested, or they get taken out by other nations world war style.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
      6·
      7 days ago

      i don’t think it’s likely that other nations will take out trump through a world war, as happened with hitler in WW2.

      this is largely because i believe that other countries entered WW2 to stop hitler because they were getting attacked, or feared they were about to be attacked next. if trump doesn’t outright attack other countries, i see little reason for other countries to use military force to stop the US or trump.

      • Wilco@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        7 days ago

        Are we talking about the same Trump? Orange guy? Current president? The guy constantly yelling about annexing other countries and making them a 51st state?

      • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        8·
        7 days ago

        For sure, but the rhetoric for annexing other nations has been ramping up, from Canada to Greenland

        So I don’t know about it not happening. I see a very real possibility of WW3. Or an American Civil War at least. While also horrific, for the sake of the world I hope it ends up being “just” a civil war

  • RoguePilot09@lemmy.world
    42·
    8 days ago

    I’m not being quiet about it AT ALL. This is why I’ve been trying to convince my liberal friends to arm themselves for years.

    • DickFiasco@lemm.ee
      161·
      8 days ago

      Bought my first gun ever immediately after the November election. When anyone brings up the stock market these days I tell them I’m investing in seeds, fresh water, and ammunition.

      • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
        10·
        8 days ago

        Invest in water purification, if that isn’t what you meant. The means to make safe water in decent quantities is going to be so important. I’m very lucky to have a strong spring fed swamp/bog on my property that I’m confident in being able to purify if my well crapped out somehow. Plan next winter is to get out there and find out where exactly the spring is.

        • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          8 days ago

          Got 2 acres of swamp in the boonies. If I had to do it all over again, with the money I’ve blown over the last 5 years, I would have dropped a well and solar powered pump. Nothing on Earth is as important as water. Hell, just putting in a gravity shower was a game changer.

          • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
            5·
            8 days ago

            Don’t discount the value of surface water, be it for irrigation, livestock, power generation/pumped hydro, or simply boiling the piss out of and filtering. I am working on an impoundment at the high point of the property and a pumping system to get water up there/generate electricity on it’s way back down.

            • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              7 days ago

              Oh no I don’t discount it! Surface water is where I get all my water. Gotta fix my little pump tonight, but I use it to get water uphill 150’ to the barrel on top of my shower/sink thing. I chunk a 1" chlorine tabs in the 69g tank, good to good. Bonus: any silt settles to the bottom couple of inches. I’ll have to dump and clean it someday, but for now it’s crystal clear “pool water”. Damned nice shower after working all day in the heat and humidity!

              If I really had to I could make it drinkable, but I’m thinking a deep enough well would solve that? Isn’t that the idea, go deep enough and the water is clean? Again, the property is half swamp so the water table is only a few feet underground. Advice?

              • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
                1·
                7 days ago

                Drill baby drill. My well is super iron rich but remediable, it runs through a big salt filter then we put in through a Brita to drink. I would look for a section of ledge and save up to drill through that.

      • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        12·
        8 days ago

        The ‘under no pretext’ phrase is significantly stronger than ‘the right to bear arms’ if both were the word of law. It explicitly says to confront anyone who threatens it.

      • SupraMario@lemmy.world
        51·
        7 days ago

        Join a club or find some locals to tag along with. Go to a range and start shooting. I do suggest to start with a 22lr because of the cost of ammo these days, don’t not practice with the larger calibers, but for $25 you can get 350+ rounds of 22lr vs like 40ish rounds of .223/556 or even less with 308.

        • unphazed@lemmy.world
          3·
          7 days ago

          Plinkers are so much fun. Great to practice with, no recoil, and not very loud. I suggest people have a .22 and a shotgun (for defense and to get a feeling for how to deal with recoil and sound without flinching). 20g can be affordable, too. 12g gets a little costly and can be a little too rough for those not prepared for them.

      • unphazed@lemmy.world
        3·
        7 days ago

        Point open end towards the thing you’re shooting, press stock into armpit. Insert loaded magazine, pull back bolt, turn off safety, squeeze trigger. If automatic, squeeze trigger again, repeat. You can also find indoor ranges that will have classes usually. Most will have limits on calibers allowed though. Outdoor ranges usually have no limits (or do but aren’t monitored).