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  • I’m a huge fan of AI, but come on… It’s being used in the most reckless and insane ways. It’s so insanely destructive to society

    Our experience so far has not been that AI is capable of or going to replace our labor. However, the threat of AI and the use of AI mandates has been used already to drive down wages, institute speedups, and generally degrade our working conditions.

    Have you noticed how a lot of software has been getting worse, like way buggier? How three times now, huge swaths of the Internet have gone down?

    It’s because tech companies keep laying people off. They’re already operating a skeleton crew, and now they’re trying to replace portions of that skeleton crew with AI

    And already, it’s not working.

    At this rate, remotely complicated software is going to become a lost technology


  • Why in the world would you think relative and equal are the same thing??? These are separate qualities

    Isaac Newton was a utter genius. Maybe the smartest person to eve live. His contributions to physics are insane, he basically created the entire field in a short period out of whole cloth

    A random physics grad student would mog him at his peak. They would not be his equal, but they’d run circles around him


  • Do you think we should respect a moral system that accepts slavery as much as one that doesn’t? If not, then you’re not a moral relativist, and that’s a relativist fallacy.

    No, they’re not equal. They’re relative. They’re a product of the context and environment.

    I have a superior moral system than the one I had as a child. Not because my values have changed much, but because experience has helped me to understand others and I’ve been able to examine and refine my moral system through that

    But they’re all based on values, which are not universal. I value minimisation of suffering, freedom, and quality of experience of life.

    If I lived in a time where slavery was common, and I had the means, I think I’d probably have a few slaves.

    Because the right to freedom doesn’t exist in that situation. I could minimize suffering and increase freedom by buying slaves and giving them autonomy - ideally I’d get informed consent beforehand too, but I’d give them agency in the course of their life in return for service. I’d use that service increase the number of slaves to maximize freedom for as many as I feel able to do so, in whatever form that takes

    Rights are absolutely alienatible. I think everyone should have the right to food, shelter, and maximization of freedom

    But we don’t have that. These right are alienated, people starve while food is wasted, people are homeless with empty houses everywhere.

    Women only have the right to vote so long as they have the right to vote. Chatel slavery still exists, as punishment for a crime. Rights don’t exist if they don’t exist in practice - anything else is just a rhetorical device

    You talk of rejecting contradictions, but there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism. Do you live on the streets and sustain yourself on trash? Is that an ethical obligation?

    There’s no contractions in maximizing good things and minimizing bad things - we all live in a very fucked up world


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    But like… Morals are relative. They’re frameworks built around core values, they’re not a property of the universe. They’re not self evident, they’re axioms we choose to value collectively

    Rights are things that must always be fought for, and they can be both established and worn away. They’re a social construct

    Rights are things that come before the law, they’re the boundaries of the law. But like the rule of law itself, they only exist through collective belief and action, otherwise they’re just words

    I don’t think it needs to be dressed up more than that. Good things are good and bad things are bad, rights protect people from bad things from the state

    You’ll never convince people who think good things are bad, because they don’t have good values. You shouldn’t engage with them on an equal level, because their values are inferior… At this point we just need to make it socially unacceptable to share their fucked up opinions


  • Holy shit, you’re a fucking retard. Like of the “people look and laugh” scale. I’m unironically going to take your response to share with technical people in my life to laugh over

    And no hate to the mentally ill, I’ve never laughed at them. I laugh with them, because they’re delightful and love joy to an extent that leaves me jealous

    But you’re not a real person. You’re a joke, if your ego was two sizes smaller I’d be gently explaining to you how no number of code katas would result in Microsoft XP


  • So is semiconductor design, application of transistors to implement logic gates, etc. We still have people who can do that, not very many, but enough. Not many people work in assembly language anymore, either…

    Yeah, that’s a lost tech. We still use the same decades, even century old, frameworks

    They’re not perfect. But they are unchangeable. We no longer have the skills to adapt them to modern technology. Improvements are incremental, despite decades of effort you still can’t reliably run a system on something like RISK.




  • Okay, but if it’s writing 800 lines at once, it’s making design choices. Which is all well and good for a one off, but it will make those choices, make them a different way each time, and it will name everything in a very generic or very eccentric way

    The AI can’t remember how it did it, or how it does things. You can do a lot… Even stuff that hasn’t entered commercial products like vectorized data stores to catalog and remind the LLM of key details when appropriate

    2000 lines is nothing. My main project is well over a million lines, and the original author and I have to meet up to discuss how things flow through the system before changing it to meet the latest needs

    But we can and do it to meet the needs of the customer, with high stakes, because we wrote it. These days we use AI to do grunt work, we have junior devs who do smaller tweaks.

    If an AI is writing code a thousand lines at a time, no one knows how it works. The AI sure as hell doesn’t. If it’s 200 lines at a time, maybe we don’t know details, but the decisions and the flow were decided by a person who understands the full picture




  • I don’t think we should be having the AI write the program in the first place. I think we’re barreling towards a place where remotely complicated software becomes a lost technology

    I don’t mind if AI helps here and there, I certainly use it. But it’s not good at custom fit solutions, and the world currently runs on custom fit solutions

    AI is like no code solutions. Yeah, it’s powerful, easier to learn and you can do a lot with it… But eventually you will hit a limit. You’ll need to do something the system can’t do, or something you can’t make the system do because no one properly understands what you’ve built

    At the end of the day, coding is a skill. If no one is building the required experience to work with complex systems, we’re going to be swimming in a world of endless ocean of vibe coded legacy apps in a decade

    I just don’t buy that AI will be able to take something like a set of State regulations and build a complaint outcome. Most of our base digital infrastructure is like that, or it uses obscure ancient systems that LLMs are basically allergic to working with

    To me, we’re risking everything on achieving AGI (and using it responsibly) before we run out of skilled workers, and we’re several game changing breakthroughs from achieving that



  • Well the real problem is that what you’re saying does exist to some extent, and it’s a very easily controlled variable

    So when execs and investors look at marvel, they learn the wrong lesson. Endgame threw in an insane number of expensive actors and made an insane amount of money

    Instead of looking at the years of setup and buildup of characters in this grand artistic vision, they’re working with spreadsheets to try to min-max the actor to box office numbers

    It’s why everything just keeping getting worse. The finance brained people are running the world, and you can always count on them to learn the wrong lesson



  • This is so true. Look at Mamdani - he never apologizes for his stances, but all he talks about are freeze rents, free buses, free childcare, and how the rich are going to pay for it

    We need to learn to shut the fuck up about praxis and work the material conditions. We need to win and loudly make things better, and win the trust of the common people

    We need their trust, not their understanding. And it’s enough if they just learn to shut up about their bigotry, even just because every time they bring it up everyone glares at them