Fight Now Or Be Deported Later

How is this world news?

I gotta say Pug Jesus, damn you have some trash needlessly condescending af takes.

Ok

https://www.dataforprogress.org/polling-the-left-agenda

https://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/trump-wins-while-americans-vote-for-progressive-policies/

https://www.citizen.org/news/progressive-policies-are-popular-policies/

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-support-progressive-policies-such-as-paid-maternity-leave-free-college.html

https://yipinstitute.org/article/analyzing-popularity-of-progressive-views

While several moderate Democrats accused and blamed progressives like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the loss of 12 seats in the House of Representatives and the Warnock/Ossoff ticket being the deciding factor for the fate of the Senate, all House Democratic candidates in swing districts who endorsed Medicare for All had won their races, with none of the incumbent Democrats who lost their reelection supporting it. In addition, only one of the 93 co-sponsors of the Green New Deal lost to their challenger. This brings up the question: Are progressive ideas actually popular? Did progressives actually win last year?

Throughout the campaigning process for the 2020 election, Republicans focused hard to smear and misrepresent their Democratic opponents using terminology like “socialism,” “radical,” and “defund the police” to define them. One would think that these more progressive policies only appeal to the younger generation of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren supporters. But, newer research conducted reveals surprising results.

An Ipsos poll showed that, in 2020, 46% of Republicans and 72% of Democrats would support a universal basic income of $1000 per month (some may remember this being a distinctive characteristic during Andrew Yang’s candidacy). A study by Pew Research Center indicated that a majority of Americans, and especially lower class Republicans, agree with raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour. Even in the battleground state of Florida, which went to Donald Trump in 2020, passed this same measure on their ballot with 61% of voter support. On Election Day, Fox News aired results of their voter analysis exit poll. One finding was that 72% of participants either somewhat or strongly favor a government-run health care plan, with 29% in opposition. Another 72% of viewers responded that they are somewhat to very concerned about climate change’s effects, having 28% disagreeing. Finally, 70% favor increasing spending toward renewable energy, with 31% against it. Results to other questions summarized that a majority of respondents want the government to do more, think racism is a serious problem in the U.S., support a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and want the Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v Wade to be left as is. A poll by Student Defense, the Defend Students Action Fund, and Data for Progress revealed that 67% of those who participated “support some form of widespread student loan forgiveness - whether it is universal, tied to income, or based on specific program eligibility,” with 58% of Republicans among that support (Forbes).

No, based upon the popularity of policies, AOC is FAR closer to representing normal people than more conservative democrats like Pelosi are?

There is a reason people hate centrist corporate democrats, it is because they don’t even pretend to push policies people desperately need.

I think in this moment as a leftist I am asking centrists like you to take the blinders you have on seriously.

Can you not see it is evident that the U.S. populace is far more ready to throw the status quo out than you are?

There is no center to defend here, change is the only option and your only choice is whether that change is directly into fascism (which is what advocating for centrism in a moment like this ultimately does) or into a progressive, forward thinking bold vision of the future.

We need a green new deal, not some lame ass policy propped up by Biden, Hillary, Shumer… and from the very beginning the visions put out by centrist Democrats are steeped in a cynical complete lack of vision that surpasses even Conservatives in inability to see any change in the status quo (though their visions are far scarier of course).

There is no “returning” to anything, there is only moving forward and centrist Democrats legitimately scare the shit out of me with how baby like they are with being afraid of change, it puts the future of this country in great peril.

Actually one of the biggest arguments in geology/evolutionary biology is whether evolution tends to be a slow, continous steady process or whether it happens in explosive spurts seperated by periods of little evolution.

There is abundant evidence that both happens, so your metaphor is tenous at best.

You are a fool if you believe any of that.

Because they weren’t afraid of change before we are “ready for it” like you are, which is the only reason the tea party worked. They were willing to tear everything down if it wasn’t working, and that made the rest of the Republican party blink.

Your strategy is exactly the kind of political pushback people like Shumer and Pelosi prefer, because it is strategically ineffectual at threatening their power.

The entrenched power structure is always going to narrativize a genuine alternative to the Democratic party as harsh toned leftists destroying things to destroy things, so if you are afraid of that in your rhetoric (even if you end up supporting more reform like policies in the end) you are already making it incredibly easy to be walked all over by people that resist all change.

No, the strategy is to go for the throat of the DNC and happily back off when they realize you aren’t messing around and give material concessions to the people they are supposed to represent. This is why the tea party was unfortunately successful, now is when the left does our version.

If that breaks the Democratic party in the process, that is their fault for building a house of cards indifferent to the suffering of people in the US.

Weak response, provide evidence that trying to reform the Democratic party is a better strategy.

They will not change their strategy, the organization is structurally incapable of it, how much more proof do you need?

We are past that point already?

Says who?

The centers of both parties are functionally allies, the power structure of the Democratic party despises the kind of progressive politics AOC and Bernie do far more than the Republicans they claim to oppose even when those Republicans are literal out in the open fascists. Chuck Shumer is exhibit A and will become a historical touchstone for discussions about how neoliberalism always in the end sets up the conditions for fascism and then pathetically collapses in the crucial moment of resistance against fascism.

Fuck that, both parties need to go, how many times has the Democratic party laughed in the face of Bernie as they blatantly undermined him?

No, I treat Republicans as an existential threat, which means I also logically see the entrenched power structures of the Democrats that are happy to lose to Republicans rather than evolve, as an existential threat.

Pelosi is a Democrat through and through, AOC and Bernie are Democrats because they have no choice in the status quo.

It is a stupid fantasy, what matters is they have fully normalized fascism here in the US

Productivity is part of the dominant theology of (at least) Western culture and functionally extends and replaces the societal functions of christian (also other religions) conservatism to centralize power in a rigid and defensive structure of guilt and judgement.

Look it isn’t that I won’t consider not supporting genocide, it is that your tone and the manner that you bring up the fact that I support the genocide makes me feel bad so out of spite I will continue to support the genocide, and now how do you feel?

This is all your fault.

/s

I love it because at first you think hey, it is a play on Dictator, which must mean the superpower is being able to psychically control an army of ducks, which if I could choose which animal I could mind control with my super power I wouldn’t choose ducks but sure, take what you can get right? There are after all ducks everywhere so there is probably some angle you can play with your super power there.

Nope though, keep lowering your expectations.

Look you aren’t going to stop this bad thing going on, so why not just support the bad thing going on and stop complaining? Personally I have made a lot of money off this bad thing so I am struggling to see what is bad about it? Your numerous examples about this bad thing hurting other people and the earth don’t work on me since I have spent a long time listening to white guys explain to me how to completely destroy my capacity for empathy for other human beings and now I am functionally a sociopath.

Besides anyways, all art is stealing so what is wrong with condescendingly shitting on artists and art in general as an idea by drowning spaces that used to be public squares full of vibrant human art with crappy cynical slop generated by a computer?

I can’t keep getting this whiplash where I lose all faith in humanity and then humanity goes and does something awesome and hilarious like this.

For those on Bluesky, this is a perfect example of why Bluesky will enshittify since this kind of brutal honesty towards rich people and large corporations won’t be tolerated on a coporate social network that is working to turn as big of a profit as possible.

This period of people being able to clown on powerful corporations like this will quickly come to an end as soon as investors put the pressure on Bluesky to return a profit.