If you believe that hateful, harmful ideas shouldn’t be challenged

I don’t see any challenging, just flailing.

scoreboard

Oh dear.

“Oh, I’m spreading rhetoric that hurts people? Why are you even responding to it, then?”

That’s not really a fair characterisation of the situation given that they said elsewhere:

“Later dude. This isn’t going to be productive.”

That’s a ridiculous distinction

I’m not sure what distinction you’re referring to. I don’t care either.

Edit: for that matter, I’m mystified as to why you are continuing to engage with me if you genuinely believe that I am victim blaming. Unless you don’t genuinely believe I am victim blaming, in which case why would you accuse me of that. Despicable.

I never got a nude pic, but I 100% know/knew some guys that were probably like this

So… you never encountered this yourself then?

get together and make a raid/foray into one of these manosphere forums, supporting each other’s arguments and shooting down sexist crap

Such behaviour is called “brigading” and it’s very much frowned upon.

Misandry is when someone says men who believe women shouldn’t be allowed to vote are abusive.

That’s not what I said. I said there’s a difference between being an asshole and being abusive and if OP can’t see and acknowledge that difference then they’re engaging in misandry. I didn’t say anything about voting rights and misandry. Please don’t put words in my mouth or misrepresent what I say.

you are defending and engaging in victim blaming

LOL bye now

Women in relationships with assholes who believe they should have no rights

Firstly, the original commenter who described the kind of relationship we’re discussing didn’t say “no rights” they said “shouldn’t be allowed to vote” which is a very much more limited view than what you’re raging against.

are always being abused by the aforementioned asshole.

That’s not the situation that was described by the original commenter. Just because someone is an asshole and has reprehensible views, doesn’t necessarily mean that they are abusive. There’s a difference and if you can’t see and acknowledge that difference then you’re just engaging in misandry. In which case, best of luck, take care, bye now.

Have you forgotten the entire context of this thread?

Nope.

Did you even glance at the article?

I read every word.

They also talked about … a man who doesn’t want his partner to vote

That is not what they talked about. They said “men who genuinely claim that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote”. That is not the same thing as a man who displays controlling behaviour over their partner.

Can you really not infer anything from that?

There’s no need for anyone to infer anything in this discussion, it’s quite clear and explicit what people are talking about.

I don’t understand your argument and you haven’t addressed the issue at hand.

Please spell out for me why a woman in a relationship with a man who believes that women shouldn’t have the right to vote, can’t exit that relationship?

Victims of abuse are victims

Note that the person you responded to didn’t mention abuse, you introduced the term “abuse”. We’re talking about women in relationships with assholes, not abused women.

I am aware of the reality that banning trans people doesn’t stop abuse.

It seems like you’re talking about something different. Originally, you were talking about cis people who thought banning trans people would stop their husbands, etc., being abusive. In other words, that banning trans people would stop all abuse. It seems like what you’re talking about here is something different: not all abuse but only some abuse.

the people who genuinely believe this may react upon learning their problems have not been magically solved

Why do you think there are people who believe that banning trans people will stop all abuse?

I wonder what’s going to happen when the cis women realize that banning trans people from their spaces didn’t actually fix anything and their husbands, boyfriends, and colleagues are still groping, beating, and forcing themselves on them.

That’s ridiculous. Why would you think that the TERFs believed that banning trans people would stop all groping, beatings or rape? They’re defending their safe spaces. They want the safe spaces for a reason.

That’s obviously an appeasement strategy towards orangeboi and the nationalist Christians

It’s not. This conflict has been going on since long before Trump took office.

FYI: https://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

I think you’ve confused what “male gaze” refers to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_gaze