Ah so it’s the perceived implicit cruelty of the whole thing. I can understand that viewpoint for sure and how it would be quite off putting for many. Thank you for the explanation.

I’m curious about this take. I’ve heard it a lot but never gotten an explanation on it. Can ypu elaborate?

I feel like that whole concept flew the coop a looong time ago

They have been for at least the last 30 years?

Oh wow that’s a great explanation, thank you! I have a bit of experience with Ubuntu and a fraction of that with Debian but absolutely no experience with any other Linux distro, so I appreciate your reply!

I run Ubuntu Server for my home lab and had a RaspberryPi running Debian for a short while as well but it was all CLI so I have almost no experience with the GUI. I was quite surprised to hear about pop ups for Ubuntu Pro.

I personally found setting up Debian for the Pi to be fairly straight forward and about as difficult as converting an old windows laptop into an Ubuntu Server…server, so they might have made Debian a bit easier to get up and running.

That being said I can’t recall if I got that particular installation specifically for the Pi so that might have an impact there.

I genuinely appreciate your explanation! :)

Ahh so Mint is kept up to date like Ubuntu/Fedora and doesn’t have all the telemetry and pop ups for Ubuntu Pro. Thank you!

So out of curiosity, why Mint over, say Debian? Has Debian added telemetry etc as well?