• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
    112·
    8 days ago

    What’s that Churchill said about being the worst thing except for everything else that’s been tried?

    • bishbosh@lemm.eeEnglish
      61·
      8 days ago

      Churchill said that about democracy, interesting you interchange the two.

    • superniceperson@sh.itjust.works
      65·
      8 days ago

      Churchill was a genocidal war criminal on par with Hitler, he’s not someone one should ever quote: unless you’re just okay with Indians not being people.

          • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
            21·
            7 days ago

            The ultimate genocider could claim “1 + 1 = 2”: that doesn’t make it false. Who they are is irrelevant to their argument, and that’s a classic ad hominem fallacy. Learn to respect logic.

              • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
                21·
                7 days ago

                More irrelevance.

                There would be no reason to quote them, period.

                No reason not to either, logically.

                choice of who to quote taint them themselves

                Genetic fallacy: your “taint” concept is irrational. Again, sometimes a quote is brought up for the idea it expresses rather than who said it.

                Like here: the commenter merely wrote that person is known to have said something relevant to the topic. Instead of addressing the substance of that message they’re referring to, you’re getting distracted by who said it.

                stop quoting fascists if you don’t want people to think you’ve decided to label yourself as a target for righteous violence

                ad baculum

                Stop pretending your high school debate classes are real life

                Start meeting basic standards of logic that don’t fail high school?

                How about “respect logic”? It’s pretty simple.