• blitzen@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    The fuck I do! Supporters of the genocide deserve to be called out no matter their religion, but it also needs to be called out when people support the genocide and utilize the charge of anti-semitism to justify it.

    At this rate, “anti-semitism” is starting to mean anti-genocide.

    Anyone who doesn’t believe in a two-state solution is a terrorist to me.

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      4 days ago

      that was a general “you gotta be careful” and i didn’t mean you specifically XD

      …until you went and composed that thoroughly self embarrassing message. now i mean it. be careful, you’re treading strange waters that are going nowhere.

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        4 days ago

        Perhaps this is a case where we’re misunderstanding each other (no doubt more so in my case.) I must be missing something because I don’t find the intent behind my response to be embarrassing, but I am open to the fact that it reads differently than I intended.

        What I reject is that I need to be afraid of speaking up against Israel (or to the Zionists abroad) or to be afraid of the “anti-Semitic” label. To your point, there are reasons to be afraid, to be careful. But to me we must speak the truth despite those reasons. Part of that truth is undoubtedly that the Israeli government is empowered by the Christians in the US and in turn the US government.

        I am NOT anti-Semitic, but I’m confident in my belief that calling out ANYONE (regardless of their religion) for their support of the Palestinian genocide is the right thing. If someone is to label that anti-Semitic I believe they are weaponizing that term.

        May I ask pointedly, what specifically are you saying to be careful of?

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          4 days ago

          When you referred to people who practice Judaism as a shield to criticism your make a very general statement against Jewish people, not all Jewish people support Israel genocide, which is what netanyahu is using as a distraction to stay out of jail. Usually when someone says they “are not this or that” it means you are what you said you aren’t.

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          4 days ago

          again, that was a very general statement. we gotta be careful. like, “rule of thumb: a genocide merits care.” as in, “taking care of what you do and say is a good thing.” or “based on previous statements, we can conclude that the future needs are not given, but rather chosen with care and planning.”

          there was no specificity in my statement whatsoever so yeah i guess if you were finding some that was a misreading on your part and i apologize. hope this clarifies.

          that said i do stand by that, even given a misunderstanding, your escalation to “at this point anti-semitism is starting to mean anti-genocide” was purposeless and without evidence. if i am reading you right we have a lot in common and it’s not helpful to open messages with “the fuck i do.”

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            4 days ago

            You are wrong. ‘We have to take care when it comes to genocide’. No you don’t. You have a right to be angry and a right to shout about it. You are engaging in genocidal apologism.

            To tolerate intolerance creates an intolerant society. To tolerate genocide is fucking disgusting.

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              4 days ago

              oh no another (intentional this time) misreading XD imagine unironically claiming that “take care” means the same thing as full-on apologia.

              you’ll want to pick up a dictionary because you my friend have lost more than the plot.