“You thought you’d get away with this. I am in your car. I am in your maps,” he shouted at her, according to the police records.
Over the coming days, Stacey found that the parental control profile, to which she had no access, could almost entirely control the car, including its speed, climate control, lock and curfew hours, determining when the car could be driven.
Between 6 and 12 November 2025, Pucci remotely alternated the car’s temperature setting between extremely cold and extremely hot.
“The victim has not been able to drive certain speeds and on most recent occasions throughout this period, [the accused] has turned on ‘Valet Mode’ which immediately reduces the speed to 40km per hour causing significant safety issues for the victim on the road”, the police documents stated.
“The victim has not had any control of her vehicle since she noticed the parental control profile added on the 1st November 2025.
The fact these controls exist at all is a fucking nightmare. How are these vehicles legally sold? This technology should illegal I’m vehicles.
To paraphrase Strong Bad: “Your [car] has too much computer in it…and not enough typewriter.”
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
To paraphrase Strong Bad: “Your [car] has too much computer in it…and not enough typewriter.”
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
I hate to break it to you, but most modern cars have this level of remote controls - they’re just not exposed to owners.
https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
I hate to break it to you, but most modern cars have this level of remote controls - they’re just not exposed to owners.
https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
The car hacking scene is growing in response. More and more, it’s becoming possible to disable/circumvent these remote capabilities. Not that the car makers are making it easy.
The car hacking scene is growing in response. More and more, it’s becoming possible to disable/circumvent these remote capabilities. Not that the car makers are making it easy.
I honestly don’t know, they’re death traps
I honestly don’t know, they’re death traps
The fact these controls exist at all is a fucking nightmare. How are these vehicles legally sold? This technology should illegal I’m vehicles.
To paraphrase Strong Bad: “Your [car] has too much computer in it…and not enough typewriter.”
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
To paraphrase Strong Bad: “Your [car] has too much computer in it…and not enough typewriter.”
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
I love seeing strong bad references in the wild!
Virus equals very yes? Computer over?! What does that mean?!
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
Really, we should have heeded his warnings.
I hate to break it to you, but most modern cars have this level of remote controls - they’re just not exposed to owners.
https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
I hate to break it to you, but most modern cars have this level of remote controls - they’re just not exposed to owners.
https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
Yeah that story is 11 years old now (jeez I remember when it came out)
The car hacking scene is growing in response. More and more, it’s becoming possible to disable/circumvent these remote capabilities. Not that the car makers are making it easy.
The car hacking scene is growing in response. More and more, it’s becoming possible to disable/circumvent these remote capabilities. Not that the car makers are making it easy.
I honestly don’t know, they’re death traps
I honestly don’t know, they’re death traps
the parental control […] could almost entirely control the car, including its speed
They assume kids in the driver seat who need to be controlled? How weird is that??
It’s wild to me the extent of control that hides under remote capabilities for Tesla. I could never drive one of these knowing it.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
It’s wild to me the extent of control that hides under remote capabilities for Tesla. I could never drive one of these knowing it.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
Super unnecessary and dystopian. If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license. If those systems fail you need a better system rather than parental control software in a vehicle.
If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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Super unnecessary and dystopian. If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license. If those systems fail you need a better system rather than parental control software in a vehicle.
If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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Rich people treat their kids like adult sized tweens until they turn 40.
Rich people treat their kids like adult sized tweens until they turn 40.
the parental control […] could almost entirely control the car, including its speed
They assume kids in the driver seat who need to be controlled? How weird is that??
It’s wild to me the extent of control that hides under remote capabilities for Tesla. I could never drive one of these knowing it.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
It’s wild to me the extent of control that hides under remote capabilities for Tesla. I could never drive one of these knowing it.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Basically all modern vehicles unfortunately.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
Yeah. :(
I live in a city with a central (free) street car line and have a Segway, so I almost never drive, though I own a 2013 Kia. Stories like this are far more interesting to me than most, I’d imagine, given my general lack of familiarity with how advanced auto tech has become.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I feel you, I’m working on getting a 1984 Honda ct110 to stop being stupid and drive an 01 Tacoma, basically every car I’ve driven has been older than 2010 with a heavy bias towards early 00s and 90s and everything past that point deals psychic damage just looking at it. I don’t need cruise control and I sure as shit don’t need a fucken iPad mounted in the dash.
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
I have never, and I will do my absolute best to never even ride in a Tesla.
They are simply unsafe
Super unnecessary and dystopian. If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license. If those systems fail you need a better system rather than parental control software in a vehicle.
If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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Super unnecessary and dystopian. If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license. If those systems fail you need a better system rather than parental control software in a vehicle.
If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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If you‘re a minor with a driving license your parent should either be by your side or you know what you‘re doing since you have a drivers license.
Are you seriously suggesting that teenagers are just going to do what they’re told? The one thing teenagers are famous for NOT doing. Just because their parents might know they’re out driving, that doesn’t actually prevent teenagers from doing stupid shit.
You also do realize that you don’t have to be 18 to get a driver’s license right? The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old, including in the US where Tesla is based, and Australia where this article is from.
The company introduced Speed Limit Mode following the death of 18-year-olds Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt Martinez in 2018. The pair crashed doing 116 mph (186 kph) in a 30 mph (40 kph) zone.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
If you’re a licensed driver, you know how to drive. If people are being given licenses without properly making sure the licensee is both qualified and mentally capable to drive and know what responsibilities that entails, then we shouldn’t be letting them drive and that’s a failing on society.
At least where I’m from, unlicensed minors aren’t allowed to drive without a licensed adult present.
And if you don’t trust your unlicensed teenager to not steal your keys and go on a joyride, the I can’t help you because you need a professional family therapist to work through issues.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Licensed driver ≠ able to drive. Lots of jurisdictions will give 18 years or older a license and the only requirement is passing the lenient written test.
Edit: My anecdotal experience on the road has shown me lots of people have licenses that clearly should not.
Edit edit. The people that think that just because you have a license that you actually know how to drive is scary. I’ve personally known multiple people who attained licenses when they never ever should’ve been given them. They were dangers to themselves and others and luckily no one was killed. Getting your license and actually knowing how to be a driver, a skilled able driver, are separate things.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That was literally the point that they were making.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
Are you sure you’re reading that right? Their first sentence contradicts your claim.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
That’s why you need to read past the first sentence.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
You might want to check that, because if you look at the list of minimum driving ages on Wikipedia you will see that most countries have a minimum of 18 for cars.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Even in the US many states allow kids to start driving as early as 15 under learning permits. It’s funny we don’t want social media companies putting controls in due to freedom of speech, but then tell parents they are responsible to control their kids. Seems like there is a middle ground, and when a person abuses that control, they go to jail.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
Learning permits require a licensed adult in the passenger seat at all times.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
May want to look into those states… In my 16 year olds can easily drive without an adult. They are limited (can’t drive at night) but are allowed to drive. This the case in a ton of states.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
16 with a Driver’s License, sure. 15 with a Learner’s Permit, no.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
That’s exactly their point. If a licensed adult has to be in the vehicle (even though there is no way for them to control the vehicle from the passengers seat) then that’s not much different than a competent adult guardian monitoring their kids online time.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
So it is.
But not in Australia where the article is about, so it doesn’t really matter anyway for the actual discussion at hand.
The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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The almost universal standard around the world is between 15 and 16 years old
No. It is 18. The universe, btw, is outside of your weird little province in that weird country where they still use body parts for measurement units.
And as soon someone is driving on public roads with a legal license, everything that the car does or does not is his own personal responsibility, not the parents. They have to leave their fingers out.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
Maybe you’re right, don’t really care because it’s not very relevant to the article. I looked up Australia which is where this article is about, and Tesla is based on the US… and 15-16 is the case in both places, so thats all that really matters for the discussion.
I made the assumption about it being more common based on verifying the place the article is about and my own experience when traveling internationally.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
You realize the article is about Australia right? Clearly you didn’t even bother to read it since it mentions Sydney in the first paragraph.
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Rich people treat their kids like adult sized tweens until they turn 40.
Rich people treat their kids like adult sized tweens until they turn 40.
What the hell? Why hasn’t she changed her password yet?
Aha, the article explains:
After having trouble navigating the technology, Stacey was offered help from Pucci, who said he would need the car to be registered in his name so “he could take control of the Tesla app to ‘assist her’”.
the scammers playbook
the scammers playbook
What the hell? Why hasn’t she changed her password yet?
Aha, the article explains:
After having trouble navigating the technology, Stacey was offered help from Pucci, who said he would need the car to be registered in his name so “he could take control of the Tesla app to ‘assist her’”.
the scammers playbook
the scammers playbook
Musk should have to write a check for $1 billion to her.
I’m not kidding. That’s how we have to punish billionaires. Every infraction is a minimum $1 billion payout to each person.
It should be a significant percentage instead, I think. 5% net worth.
He’d fix that shit real quick.
It should be a significant percentage instead, I think. 5% net worth.
He’d fix that shit real quick.
I’m with you. I wish we lived in a world where these rich bastards were being held meaningfully accountable.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I’m with you. I wish we lived in a world where these rich bastards were being held meaningfully accountable.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
non monetized punishment should be their punishment. never mind paying anyone off. make all that money powerless.
non monetized punishment should be their punishment. never mind paying anyone off. make all that money powerless.
He owes her 10 million and pays 2 billion dollar in taxes
He owes her 10 million and pays 2 billion dollar in taxes
Why? These are known useful features of the car. The guy changing the settings remotely is the criminal and she was too ignorant to disable his account. It’s like if you give your house keys to your stalker and find them illegally in your house then trying to sue the lock maker.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Why? These are known useful features of the car. The guy changing the settings remotely is the criminal and she was too ignorant to disable his account. It’s like if you give your house keys to your stalker and find them illegally in your house then trying to sue the lock maker.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Musk should have to write a check for $1 billion to her.
I’m not kidding. That’s how we have to punish billionaires. Every infraction is a minimum $1 billion payout to each person.
It should be a significant percentage instead, I think. 5% net worth.
He’d fix that shit real quick.
It should be a significant percentage instead, I think. 5% net worth.
He’d fix that shit real quick.
I’m with you. I wish we lived in a world where these rich bastards were being held meaningfully accountable.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I’m with you. I wish we lived in a world where these rich bastards were being held meaningfully accountable.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
It’s up to us. We have to force our representatives to enforce justice, or we will, and it will include those who denied us justice.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
I wish there was a real way to do that.
non monetized punishment should be their punishment. never mind paying anyone off. make all that money powerless.
non monetized punishment should be their punishment. never mind paying anyone off. make all that money powerless.
He owes her 10 million and pays 2 billion dollar in taxes
He owes her 10 million and pays 2 billion dollar in taxes
Why? These are known useful features of the car. The guy changing the settings remotely is the criminal and she was too ignorant to disable his account. It’s like if you give your house keys to your stalker and find them illegally in your house then trying to sue the lock maker.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Why? These are known useful features of the car. The guy changing the settings remotely is the criminal and she was too ignorant to disable his account. It’s like if you give your house keys to your stalker and find them illegally in your house then trying to sue the lock maker.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Please explain how remotely limiting the speed of a vehicle is useful and not dangerous.
The only “parental controls” you need are the keys.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
that feature is called “Valet mode”. It’s specifically to stop valets going joy-riding on your $150k car that was faster than most Ferraris back when that feature got added.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
Sweet. So why does it need to be done remotely? Why not a passcode?
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
It offers both. But if you do it remotely from the owner’s phone, it doesn’t require the passcode. Presumably in case you forget the passcode you set in the car.
And once you build the functionality to turn it off remotely, you may as well allow turning it on as well. For example, if you realize you forgot to enable valet mode shortly after handing over the keys, you can still do so.
This is why we reset our vehicles when an employee leaves. Probably should do the same when you have a messy breakup.
My significant others just got a bunch of ford app notifications for a vehicle at a job he left 6 months ago. Not everyone takes these things seriously. I had no idea he even still had the app on his phone lol.
My significant others just got a bunch of ford app notifications for a vehicle at a job he left 6 months ago. Not everyone takes these things seriously. I had no idea he even still had the app on his phone lol.
With Tesla you can’t really do that, whatever account is registered as the owner (she transferred the ownership from her account to his) is the only one that can add and remove others to access the car via the app. The only other way is to show Tesla you are the actual owner of the car and then they can switch it back to your account. Fuckong nightmare.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
With Tesla you can’t really do that, whatever account is registered as the owner (she transferred the ownership from her account to his) is the only one that can add and remove others to access the car via the app. The only other way is to show Tesla you are the actual owner of the car and then they can switch it back to your account. Fuckong nightmare.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
This is why we reset our vehicles when an employee leaves. Probably should do the same when you have a messy breakup.
My significant others just got a bunch of ford app notifications for a vehicle at a job he left 6 months ago. Not everyone takes these things seriously. I had no idea he even still had the app on his phone lol.
My significant others just got a bunch of ford app notifications for a vehicle at a job he left 6 months ago. Not everyone takes these things seriously. I had no idea he even still had the app on his phone lol.
With Tesla you can’t really do that, whatever account is registered as the owner (she transferred the ownership from her account to his) is the only one that can add and remove others to access the car via the app. The only other way is to show Tesla you are the actual owner of the car and then they can switch it back to your account. Fuckong nightmare.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
With Tesla you can’t really do that, whatever account is registered as the owner (she transferred the ownership from her account to his) is the only one that can add and remove others to access the car via the app. The only other way is to show Tesla you are the actual owner of the car and then they can switch it back to your account. Fuckong nightmare.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There is another way: don’t own a Tesla.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Having owned a Tesla for 3 years, I can’t find the words to express how fucking right your statement is. Those things are the definition of the phrase “expensive, underwhelming and frustrating garbage”.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
There’s only so much bullshit I’d put up with for that admittedly crazy acceleration (drove a friend’s once and they can go). From the privacy angle alone, I see them as basically ring doorbell cameras on wheels (though wonder if I should instead consider them like flock cameras on wheels). For safety, they can require having the presence of mind (and physical capability, which could be impossible if an accident occurred) to remove a door panel to access the mechanical door latch while the car is on fire. Build quality sucks. They are pretty much a poster child for overpromise underdeliver.
And that’s not even touching who benefits from Tesla doing well.
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
Wow fuck Tesla, atleast with Ford it’s just an in vehicle option in settings to reset
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
Remember, Tesla added this feature after widespread demand for parental controls on use following an incident in which a teenager killed themselves by driving too fast. People asked why they couldn’t override the car with parental controls if that feature was a technical possibility and there was even talk of using legal force to make them do it if they didn’t voluntarily comply.
Tesla requiring proof that the limited account belonged to a minor was not going to be permitted. Parents did this to us.
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
Remember, Tesla added this feature after widespread demand for parental controls on use following an incident in which a teenager killed themselves by driving too fast. People asked why they couldn’t override the car with parental controls if that feature was a technical possibility and there was even talk of using legal force to make them do it if they didn’t voluntarily comply.
Tesla requiring proof that the limited account belonged to a minor was not going to be permitted. Parents did this to us.
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
this is how so many marriages end with abusers.
but ok…i guess we just blame the victims for abusers who own the ultimate choice over their own behaviour
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
this is how so many marriages end with abusers.
but ok…i guess we just blame the victims for abusers who own the ultimate choice over their own behaviour
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
Remember, Tesla added this feature after widespread demand for parental controls on use following an incident in which a teenager killed themselves by driving too fast. People asked why they couldn’t override the car with parental controls if that feature was a technical possibility and there was even talk of using legal force to make them do it if they didn’t voluntarily comply.
Tesla requiring proof that the limited account belonged to a minor was not going to be permitted. Parents did this to us.
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
Remember, Tesla added this feature after widespread demand for parental controls on use following an incident in which a teenager killed themselves by driving too fast. People asked why they couldn’t override the car with parental controls if that feature was a technical possibility and there was even talk of using legal force to make them do it if they didn’t voluntarily comply.
Tesla requiring proof that the limited account belonged to a minor was not going to be permitted. Parents did this to us.
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
I doubt it was parents. It was probably the same people that run all the parents rights groups: fundamental Christian extremists.
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
It literally was the parents
“Valet mode” also exists because valets were joyriding people’s Teslas
this is how so many marriages end with abusers.
but ok…i guess we just blame the victims for abusers who own the ultimate choice over their own behaviour
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
this is how so many marriages end with abusers.
but ok…i guess we just blame the victims for abusers who own the ultimate choice over their own behaviour
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
You’re right, it’s better to pretend abusers don’t exists and don’t take any precautions. Leave our door open, use single password for everything and carry wallets in our back pockets. When something bad happens we’ll just blame the criminal and everything will be fixed.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
wow ok i get it. you hate victims. you know who else hates their victims? abusers. you talk like an abuser there with how much you hate victims.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
I’ve seen dozens of cautionary tales written by abused women, telling others how abusers operate, what to look out for and what to do to stay safe. I guess all those women hate victims too.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
wow so you cant see the difference either. you abusers sure all love telling on yourselves.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see prejudice, that’s enough.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
I see so if your parents get scammed for every last penny leaving you no inheritance because they were too embarrassed and felt a bottomless pit of shame and humiliation to come forward about scam artists because no one can be vulnerable around you because you blame them for any misfortune. They can’t turn to you just for some strength or advice to do next steps for disaster management because disasters, challenges and growth aren’t permitted in your world.
And let me guess: everyone in the world ‘annoys’ you.
Wonderful relationship and empathy material of a typical npd.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Remember kids, if you give full control of you car to someone else you will have a bad time.
This isn’t advice, it’s victim blaming. It’s Pucci’s fault that he took control of her car and terrorized her.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Yes, I know, woman would have to say it to for it o be an advice. If a man says it it’s victim blaming.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
It has nothing to do with gender and everything with you literally blaming the victim instead of the abuser.
Smart devices are for dumb people.
Smart devices are for dumb people.
This is why I like my old Jeep. It’s manual. It’s got great “security”. I always say it’s got an alarm system; because any small time thief would yell out of frustration. When I travel, I pull out the clutch pedal and take fuel relay out and unplug the battery and leave it in 4lo lol. Oh yeah and you have to unplug the clutch pedal fuse for it to start. If the battery has been unplugged, then you got remap the ECU which takes like a half hour of my shovel wedged against the gas pedal unless you want the engine stalling out every time you take your foot of the pedal. It’s also one of the rare colors, as in only 2000 made with dicks, I’m very childish, carved in hard to see spots to make it a nightmare for part thieves. So if you steal it, pretty much with a tow truck, it’s like putting a bullseye on yourself.
The point was, there’s no controlling that. I don’t like all the new tech put into cars.
Awesome. Love the tactics. :)
Hahah thanks!
Hahah thanks!
Awesome. Love the tactics. :)
Hahah thanks!
Hahah thanks!
Sorry, what’s 4lo?
Its like j-lo, but for jeeps.
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
Its like j-lo, but for jeeps.
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
4x4 vehicles can be put in 4hi or 4lo. 4lo is slow as hell.
4x4 vehicles can be put in 4hi or 4lo. 4lo is slow as hell.
Sorry, what’s 4lo?
Its like j-lo, but for jeeps.
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
Its like j-lo, but for jeeps.
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
I’ve no idea what a j-lo is either. Never heard of it.


Jennifer Lopez,
Jennifer Lopez,
4x4 vehicles can be put in 4hi or 4lo. 4lo is slow as hell.
4x4 vehicles can be put in 4hi or 4lo. 4lo is slow as hell.










