• Andy@slrpnk.net
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      No, California already does lots of gun regulation.

      If anything, I think this is the result of a culture in which they’re looking for ways to do more when there’s no much more they can really do without federal changes.

      It’s fucked up. California legislators just do not really care about surveillance or civil rights at this this point.

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        I think this is the result of a culture in which they’re looking for ways to do more

        Well, except for actually effective policies like better access to mental health care and reducing socioeconomic inequality. Because that would take actual effort.

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    This so broad and vague as to be unconstitutional. It’s like mandating that computers have to have technology that prevents hate speech. A 3d printer, like a computer, a hammer, a pencil, or the myriad of other tools humans use is just a general tool that can be put to good or bad uses. It would be insane to require anti-skull bashing technology for hammers and it is crazy to burden 3d printer manufacturers to develop technology to try to do this. Moreover, 3d printers are just one way to make ghost guns. A better way may be just home CNC. Instead of additive technology laying down layers of plastic one by one, with home CNC you can take a block of metal and machine it out, subtractive technology. The bill does not impact home CNC. So dumb!

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      We should pass a law that all knives have to know what purpose they are being used for and should refuse to be used for stabbing or otherwise hurting people.

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      All part of why the Democrat party is only slightly smaller bags of shit than the Republican party. Neither one is worth a damn. It’s all about control, power, and keeping rich.

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      And with machining metal, you might make something that can shoot more than one bullet that probably won’t explode in your face.

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      mandating that computers have to have technology that prevents hate speech.

      What a brilliant idea, let’s get on it immediately. 🤣

      Joking aside, you are 100% right.
      Except I think the idea of printing a gun is to avoid detection in metal detectors.

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        You do know that 3d printed guns are not 100% plastic, large chunks of them are just normal metal gun parts. I’m also wondering what you think bullets are made of?

        Please don’t repeat stupid shit like saying 3d printed guns go past metal detectors. It will hurt the 3d printing community.

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        The vast majority of these 3d printed guns use the fact that the registered “gun” is only a small part of the actual whole gun. You can buy barrels, magazines, slides, firing pins, etc, all mail order without any fuss — it’s the part with the serial number that is actually the firearm and restricted. So if you print that part (which is often basically just a shell to hold the metal components in place) you have an unserialized gun that’s basically just as good as one from a gun store.

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    Sounds so much like age limit to “protect the children”. If that’s seen as a good idea by the rest of the world’s leaders… I hope my not-connected old printer will last as long as I!

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    That law is impossible to follow and moronic.
    You can’t prevent a new unknown designs to be printed, and my guess is those are pretty trivial to make. And there is guaranteed to be workarounds too. This is just enshittification by law.
    My guess is that this law will not pass.

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        Sigh…

        Now read a little further:

        The bill must still pass through the California State Senate, and will pass through California governor Gavin Newsom’s desk if it clears the Senate. Newsom can then either sign it into law, or veto it.

        But I can see the people upvoting you didn’t do that either. Sigh…
        It’s not my fault the headline is stupid and misleading. It has only passed 1 step out of 3.

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    Now all the 3D printing bros get to experience what life is like as a firearm bro.

    The laws are not so bad but it’s the malicious compliance of retailers and manufacturers that will make your hobby nearly impossible.

    Oh but if you have plenty of money there are no issues for you.

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      Hm nah this is mostly about commercial printers. As a 3d printer hobbieist I can build it from the ground up so I wouldn’t care much

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    My favorite thing about these super-specific gun laws is how we’re 50 fiefdoms where none of it is ultimately enforceable.

    Americans do not give a fuck. We’re a violent people and if your kid gets hurt so we can have our toys, it’s a-okay.

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    The real problem was always the grip being the serialized part of a firearm…

    As long as that’s true, firearm regulations are easy to circumvent.

    “Fire Control Units” make more sense, but is still just kicking the can down the road. Eventually those would be home made too.

    It’s like racoon-proofing a trashcan, if you do it step by step, all you’re doing is teaching raccoons to break into trash cans. If you start out secure enough, they never learn.

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      Somebody once suggested removing all restrictions on the sale and possession of firearms, but severely regulating ammunition.

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          TMK, while ammunition is somewhat regulated already, it’s even easier to manufacture with minimal resources. Hobbyists have been manufacturing ammunition for a very long time. In the short term, those manufacturers would fill in the demand gap left by factory ammo.

          It would certainly make ammunition more expensive, and thus potentially curb unnecessary use, but a lot of that unnecessary use is a big predictor WRT safe use, so I’m not entirely sure the net effect would be positive in the long term either.

          Also, as a general note…

          Since fascist governments always seek a monopoly on violence, the fact that I’ve been pro gun control for a very long time hasn’t stopped me from turning my head on the issue.

          Many comrades will undoubtedly disagree with me on this point, but:

          I think now is not the time for leftists to be pro gun control.