To make use of a 10Gb network, wouldn’t I also need all of my equipment in between things to support 10Gb? Where am I supposed to get a 10Gb modem for residential use?
You don’t need 10GbE WAN to make use of it on your LAN. If you have a lot of internal traffic (self hosting, for example), you really just need an internal router and some switches to support it. It’s more convenient to have your modem be your main router, but that’d not necessary.
I think that these just aren’t for me. I’ve considered upgrading my gear to 2.5Gb from 1Gb, but it just doesn’t feel worth it to me. Maybe in ten years when everything’s cheaper and more accessible.
I do, but honestly anything past gigabit is overkill currently. My fileserver currently works over WiFi, and 100-200mbps is still plenty fot 1 UHD stream. Faster is always better, but 2.5gbps would already be overkill for what I need, so the extra cost of 10gbps isn’t needed.
That said, it’s feasible to get a 10gbps LAN today. Regular cat6 should be totally fine, and it’s pretty inexpensive.
3~5Gbps fiber is readily available in a lot of places. And some of us have internal networks with network attached storage and various servers running locally.
I use 10GbE for my internal network for my Ceph cluster. I’ve come about 80% of theoretical maximum for brief spikes from my NVMe drives rebalancing (mostly HDDs, few SSDs, couple NVMes).
Last part that I need is for SSDs to come down in price to where ~80TB isn’t too ridiculous (that’s 40TB usable space with RAID1). Cut the price per TB in half two more times to make it there. Otherwise, spinning platters are the bottleneck with my 10Gb network.
Which probably would have happened in the next few years if not for tariffs.
Even without tariffs, the collusion between nand manufacturers to keep prices high meant 2030 would be the earliest that 8tb SSDs would be “affordable”
Where am I supposed to get a 10Gb modem for residential use?
There are a few routers that have SFP+ slots so you can modulate to any laser signal your provider might require.
FRITZ!Box 5690 Pro
Zyxel AX7501
TP-Link Deco BE85
Otherwise if you’re looking for strictly only a modem there are various available. They are usually simply called fiber to ethernet converter. Startek, Delock, Trendnet, FS
If you meant a switch, well 10G switches are abundant. Zyxel, Netgear, TP-Link all the usual suspects.
In my experience that’s usually the case for XG-PON and XGS-PON networks. Because you’re sharing one port on the OLT with up to 63 neighbours. Though I think most build outs aim for 16 or 32 splits.
Anyway they don’t want to risk you sending when it’s not your turn or disturbing your neighbours connection in any other way, they make you use their ONU. Basically the same old story like with the coax cable modems. Just because some idiot (or rather industry group of idiots) had to go and turn fiber back into a shared medium to save on cable and ports a bit.
To make use of a 10Gb network, wouldn’t I also need all of my equipment in between things to support 10Gb? Where am I supposed to get a 10Gb modem for residential use?
You don’t need 10GbE WAN to make use of it on your LAN. If you have a lot of internal traffic (self hosting, for example), you really just need an internal router and some switches to support it. It’s more convenient to have your modem be your main router, but that’d not necessary.
I think that these just aren’t for me. I’ve considered upgrading my gear to 2.5Gb from 1Gb, but it just doesn’t feel worth it to me. Maybe in ten years when everything’s cheaper and more accessible.
If everything is constrained by your internet connection, it’s probably not worth it.
This will help within your home network, such as with a file server or vm host, large video files. Not everyone fits those use cases
I don’t fit those use cases either, but I want to
I do, but honestly anything past gigabit is overkill currently. My fileserver currently works over WiFi, and 100-200mbps is still plenty fot 1 UHD stream. Faster is always better, but 2.5gbps would already be overkill for what I need, so the extra cost of 10gbps isn’t needed.
That said, it’s feasible to get a 10gbps LAN today. Regular cat6 should be totally fine, and it’s pretty inexpensive.
3~5Gbps fiber is readily available in a lot of places. And some of us have internal networks with network attached storage and various servers running locally.
I have a NAS and servers as well. Do you have a router separate from your modem that these pass through?
I’m not them, but I do. I like that my ISP does not have any equipment on my internal network.
I have a separate switch if that’s what you mean.
Also the NAS has 10Gbe already, I could have that plugged directly to my desktop for faster transfers until I get a 10Gbe switch.
Point being, 10Gbe at home isn’t that far fetched. I’ve had Gbe for what? 20 years?
So you have NAS to switch, switch to PC? And then that switch goes to the router/modem?
Correct
Thanks, I’ll have to consider this setup.
I use 10GbE for my internal network for my Ceph cluster. I’ve come about 80% of theoretical maximum for brief spikes from my NVMe drives rebalancing (mostly HDDs, few SSDs, couple NVMes).
Last part that I need is for SSDs to come down in price to where ~80TB isn’t too ridiculous (that’s 40TB usable space with RAID1). Cut the price per TB in half two more times to make it there. Otherwise, spinning platters are the bottleneck with my 10Gb network.
Which probably would have happened in the next few years if not for tariffs.
Even without tariffs, the collusion between nand manufacturers to keep prices high meant 2030 would be the earliest that 8tb SSDs would be “affordable”
There are a few routers that have SFP+ slots so you can modulate to any laser signal your provider might require.
Otherwise if you’re looking for strictly only a modem there are various available. They are usually simply called fiber to ethernet converter. Startek, Delock, Trendnet, FS
If you meant a switch, well 10G switches are abundant. Zyxel, Netgear, TP-Link all the usual suspects.
Even with the sfp+ ports some providers make not using their provided modem a real headache. (Looking at att)
In my experience that’s usually the case for XG-PON and XGS-PON networks. Because you’re sharing one port on the OLT with up to 63 neighbours. Though I think most build outs aim for 16 or 32 splits.
Anyway they don’t want to risk you sending when it’s not your turn or disturbing your neighbours connection in any other way, they make you use their ONU. Basically the same old story like with the coax cable modems. Just because some idiot (or rather industry group of idiots) had to go and turn fiber back into a shared medium to save on cable and ports a bit.