• DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    2 天前

    What’s the point of this comment? The U.S. is waging a war of aggression in violation of international law, deliberately bombing schools and drinking water facilities, and thereby committing the worst war crimes imaginable. And it’s doing all this in collaboration with the butchers in Israel, whom it protects from prosecution.

    That doesn’t seem to matter to you in the slightest, since you still feel you have to stand up for the “proud troop” as an “upstanding American supporter.”

    This makes me sick—the U.S. president is a serious criminal and a pedophile, this awful country is ruled by organized crime.

    GTFO

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      The point of this comment is that the BBC is not supporting the US or minimizing the deaths of Iranians in the article.

      They are reporting the strike as part of the conflict not as support one way or another.

      It’s important to report on this because the US has a history of kinda losing it when Americans die. Which will be used as an excuse by Trump to continue the conflict.

      The US is absolutely in the wrong here and nothing said in the article or anything I said even remotely suggested otherwise.

      Please take a breath to read before trying to assign a moral stance to every comment.

      I hope Iran keeps kicking the US’s ass in this conflict

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        Isn’t that exactly what the comment you’re responding to is getting at? The discrepancy between the headline and the facts? So, the fact that a few U.S. troops lost their lives while their bombs blew many, many more Iranians—most of them civilians—to pieces?

        Am I completely misreading this?

        Edit: By the way, this is likely a news agency report that the BBC reprinted largely unchanged from a U.S. agency. That also explains why the BBC isn’t at all critical in this article. However, I can only vaguely discern that this outlet would generally be critical, which has to do with the “special” relationship between the UK and the U.S. You’ll never hear the BBC state with sufficient clarity that this war violates international law, nor that the U.S. is committing war crimes.

        This is not meant to be an attack on this long-established organization. In my home country, Germany, the situation is no different, as our politicians also continue to cling to the U.S. as well.

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          Comment 1: The BBC is not caring about Iranian lives

          My reply: Here’s an article where the BBC reports explicitly on Iranian deaths

          People seem to be trying to assign a moral stance to the BBC in this article, but it’s a pretty straightforward summation of facts on a strike that occurred today. This is standard conflict reporting with no real moral stance being added.

          You’ll never hear the BBC state with sufficient clarity that this war violates international law

          They’ve gotten pretty damn close

          Iran war shows norms of international conflicts have been overturned

          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gjv02g54ko

          International law experts allege violations in Iran war

          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy91x2n29nlo

          Can’t find any reporting that the war is legal and completely okay.

          If we want to delve more into my personal opinions, most Western nations do not want this war. I think they care more about the oil than the lives, but they still don’t want it. You are right though most will not distance themselves from the US over it. Germany and the UK particularly love the US military since its foreign bases bring a lot of revenue to local economies. I applaud Spain for being brave enough to say what needs to be said and hope the rest of the EU follows

        • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          No, I don’t think you are. The person just seems very adamant at ‘winning the argument’ so it’s going to take all kinds of twists and turns and become a convoluted mess

          • DandomRude@lemmy.world
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            In this case, it seems like the user has a whole bunch of smurf accounts to make their point … just look at the downvotes. If you’re not sure what a comment means, you wouldn’t just downvote it right away, would you? Anyway, that’s how I see it, but yeah, maybe after all these years I’m still misunderstanding this metric.

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              Are you both illiterate? arrow74’s comment was very clear and they even explained it in very simple terms.

              Am I completely misreading this?

              Yes.

              If you’re not sure what a comment means, you wouldn’t just downvote it right away, would you?

              And here you are: having a fit even though you don’t understand their comment.

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                12 小时前

                Where does all this hatred and mindless conformity come from, which makes social media platforms so hostile?

                Presumably because you have an interest in ensuring that there can be no civilized exchange…

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                    12 小时前

                    There’s no problem here, since we’re all on the same page. It just looks that way because of the downvote train that you’re still continuing many hours after the fact, instead of explaining how this misunderstanding might have arisen. The comment we’re talking about here doesn’t say anything like what you’re making out to be a given. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, but no one seems willing to bother explaining it. Instead, there are just downvotes and “sufficient” answers that have absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand. But hey, that’s just how social media is, and that’s exactly why the pedophile billionaires are winning…

                    Their tactic is to get like-minded people to tear each other apart: This is a good example of that on a very small scale.