I very much dislike Biden but I wasn’t worried about being shoved in an internment camp or getting LiveLeak’d by paramilitary goons for the crime of voicing an opinion or melanin during those years.
It’s apparent. I think the left while more principled than the right doesn’t think strategically like the right. The right shows up consistently for their agenda of hate and disenfranchisement. Meanwhile, we are willing to let it all go to hell if it means having to suffer someone we don’t agree with 95%+ because then they’re just as bad as the other person.
The right shows up because they have funding from billionaires that allows them to be bussed in to the capital en masse, get legal funds covered, influencers get paid to spread fascism all over social media. The left doesn’t have the funding in the west like the fascist billionaires give to the right.
This is recent though. The modern right galvanized on deregulation, abortion, undoing “entitlements,” and civil rights advances in the 70s-80s and showed up consistently since then at local, state and federal elections in pursuit of that. Leftists show up if they like someone and won’t if they don’t. Or at least this is my observation from living in red vs blue areas. I will concede with you though that not having funding is a relative weakness of ours and has also played a role in shaping our current environment.
Genocide – by which I assume you singularly mean Palestine as I doubt you care as much about other ones going on (e.g.in Sudan, Myanmar) – is not the only issue. (And before you insinuate I don’t care about Gaza, I donate to organizations that provide aid there as well as other international crises as the war in the DRC, etc.) There’s other important issues like climate change, dismantling the prison industrial complex, restoring reproductive rights, healthcare reform, reigning in the surveillance techbros, etc. I assume you support at least the majority of these. These are all ‘important issues’ and losing ground on these has the potential to harm millions domestically and abroad.
As with the other commenter, I doubt you care about the genocide in Sudan or Myanmar and singularly mean Palestine. After all, we POC here in the States are so clearly expendable to you why would you care about most other POC abroad? With Palestine you get to meme on Israel all day (which is where the caring starts and ends as the online left is so averse to putting in work to effect change but somehow expect to win a revolution someday lol). With Sudan, Myanmar, there’s no reward from that as there’s no state with near the notoriety of Israel to meme on and it’s not like you’re going to actually put in work so why bother?
Genocides are bad. Your tax money and weapons of mass destruction are being used to systematically eradicate one particular people. I do care about Sudan and Myanmar, as I said all genocides are bad, the only difference is that YOU are directly responsible for Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. Does that help clear things up?
Trump already killed more children than Obama and Biden combined over 12 years with his cuts to USAID, WHO, and Paris Climate Accords alone, leaving aside the 40% excess covid deaths peer reviewed scientific studies indicate from his disastrous covid pandemic response but keep telling yourself this false equivalence lie.
Say really quick: can you confirm to me that you agree Xi and Putin are at least if not more so corrupt, psychopathic, and/or evil?
Xi? Have you been to China? They have affordable housing, Healthcare, education and transportation. They have less people in prison per capita than the United States.
Just kinda sorta kicking the brutal mistreatment of Uyghurs, Tibetans, or Tienamen under the rug conveniently, I see, eh? Do you enjoy the attempted imperial conquest of Taiwan China is obviously partaking in? What are labor conditions like there? How do you like those child sweat shops? Do you like that China gets to censor images like Xi as Winnie the Pooh? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised one who endorses authoritarianism over democratic principles, though. Not exactly free and transparent journalism there when anyone who opposes the CCP get disappeared conveniently, now is it? And how do you like that China is actively funneling weapons and mercenaries to Russia to use in imperial conquest and murder of women and children in Ukraine? Tell me, who are you sincerely believing in acknowledging the number of prison people per capita than the US, and what are the comparative living conditions of those prisons compared to the USA? As China goes full-steam on industrialization and capitalism, their pollution rates are significantly worse than USA as well in terms of concerns for climate change.
Also I noticed you dodged the entire rest of my comment, so please acknowledge this fact: Trump already killed more children than Obama and Biden combined over 12 years with his cuts to USAID, WHO, and Paris Climate Accords alone, leaving aside the 40% excess covid deaths peer reviewed scientific studies indicate from his disastrous covid pandemic response but keep telling yourself this false equivalence lie.
Parroting western propaganda that has been debunked thoroughly isn’t the gotcha that you think it is. What does the United Nations say about the treatment of the Uyghurs? Surely there must be some evidence other than Adrian zenz’ testimony?
Your comment made the comparison between China and the United States bud. It’s not whataboutism just because I’m challenging you on it. You opened it up for discussion. 🤷♂️
Actually that’s incorrect. If you go back far enough, you’ll find I was primarily comparing Biden and Obama to Trump. Then you hyper-fixated strangely on my second brief question regarding your opinion of Xi and Putin, which was a bait that you fell for. Thank you for that.
You know what rattles my belief in humanity? Supposed leftists regurgitating capitalist propaganda because they are afraid of being labeled a “genocide-denier” without even doing the research to see if the claim that there is no genocide in Xinjiang holds any water.
If you agree that capitalism is bad and that capitalist media exists to uphold the status quo, why do you just blindly trust the capitalists when they say there is a genocide? Especially when they deny the genocide in Gaza that is literally being televised every day. Obviously capitalist media cannot be relied upon for the truth.
It amuses me that your comment was down-voted automatically in literally less than 30 seconds of posting, which means there are actual bot farms on here down-voting the mere mention thereof. I only noticed because I happened to refresh and see the notification that you replied to me.
not killing children is not utopian or purity testing, its question of basic humanity. The GOP and democrats differ almost on nothing except the cutlure war.
Not even lib but nice try, little buddy lol. Your pretentious ad hominem (But thank you tankie for opening the door) deflections precede your actual knowledge and understanding.
For all our sake, I hope you’re just young (say, below 22-years-old?) and naive. Lay off the twitch chat and venture out in the world.
Wait so you’re a non liberal that regurgitates lib talking points? You don’t even know what an ad hominem is, obviously, so I guess I’d say your lashing out “precedes your actual knowledge and understanding.”
Yeah baby, irrefutable facts that China is imperialist with their… not invading even land they consider their own [Taiwan] for 50 years. Very strong imperialist tendencies there.
You can learn more about their oppression of their people here
One of Bidens last acts before leaving office was opening up several detention centers for ICE. He continued weapon sales and aid to Israel long after their actions were widely recognized as a genocide. Biden did nothing to meaningfully preemptively protect us from the things we knew were obvious Trump was going to do. I’m not saying Trump isn’t worse, but I don’t think history will make Biden look any better.
as would any other candidate, it wasnt going to stop with biden or harris, it will be any DNC/GOP. decades of ongoing support for zionist Israel isnt going to suddenly stop, besides israel/aipac funnels back our tax dollars back tot he same politicians, plus they have numerous propaganda apparatus to help with that.
Biden was the Democratic nominee and here we are 6 years later under Trump. 🤷♂️ There were other candidates who would have made sure Trump ended up serving time for his convictions. Biden failed just like I knew he would.
A vote for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries was a vote for fascism. We tried to warn you he wasn’t the guy for the job. 🤷♂️
he has done none of what you claimed, but trump has done everything you wanted.
He literally went behind congresses back in order to send more weapons to a country in the middle of a well documented genocide.
I very much dislike Biden but I wasn’t worried about being shoved in an internment camp or getting LiveLeak’d by paramilitary goons for the crime of voicing an opinion or melanin during those years.
How are you not making the connection that Trump back in office is a direct result of Joe Biden’s [lack of] leadership when it was desperately needed?
It’s apparent. I think the left while more principled than the right doesn’t think strategically like the right. The right shows up consistently for their agenda of hate and disenfranchisement. Meanwhile, we are willing to let it all go to hell if it means having to suffer someone we don’t agree with 95%+ because then they’re just as bad as the other person.
The right shows up because they have funding from billionaires that allows them to be bussed in to the capital en masse, get legal funds covered, influencers get paid to spread fascism all over social media. The left doesn’t have the funding in the west like the fascist billionaires give to the right.
This is recent though. The modern right galvanized on deregulation, abortion, undoing “entitlements,” and civil rights advances in the 70s-80s and showed up consistently since then at local, state and federal elections in pursuit of that. Leftists show up if they like someone and won’t if they don’t. Or at least this is my observation from living in red vs blue areas. I will concede with you though that not having funding is a relative weakness of ours and has also played a role in shaping our current environment.
You agree with someone who supports genocide 95%? I sure as hell don’t.
Trivializing important issues doesn’t make your point.
Genocide – by which I assume you singularly mean Palestine as I doubt you care as much about other ones going on (e.g.in Sudan, Myanmar) – is not the only issue. (And before you insinuate I don’t care about Gaza, I donate to organizations that provide aid there as well as other international crises as the war in the DRC, etc.) There’s other important issues like climate change, dismantling the prison industrial complex, restoring reproductive rights, healthcare reform, reigning in the surveillance techbros, etc. I assume you support at least the majority of these. These are all ‘important issues’ and losing ground on these has the potential to harm millions domestically and abroad.
I asked you a question. It’s a yes or no question.
You gave that percentage to make your point. Now it’s time for you to demonstrate that’s what you actually believe.
I don’t even agree with Biden or Harris or most AIPAC Dems near that much and certainly not the right. Nice attempted gotcha though.
If genocide is on the table, it is literally the only important issue.
As with the other commenter, I doubt you care about the genocide in Sudan or Myanmar and singularly mean Palestine. After all, we POC here in the States are so clearly expendable to you why would you care about most other POC abroad? With Palestine you get to meme on Israel all day (which is where the caring starts and ends as the online left is so averse to putting in work to effect change but somehow expect to win a revolution someday lol). With Sudan, Myanmar, there’s no reward from that as there’s no state with near the notoriety of Israel to meme on and it’s not like you’re going to actually put in work so why bother?
Genocides are bad. Your tax money and weapons of mass destruction are being used to systematically eradicate one particular people. I do care about Sudan and Myanmar, as I said all genocides are bad, the only difference is that YOU are directly responsible for Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. Does that help clear things up?
Trump already killed more children than Obama and Biden combined over 12 years with his cuts to USAID, WHO, and Paris Climate Accords alone, leaving aside the 40% excess covid deaths peer reviewed scientific studies indicate from his disastrous covid pandemic response but keep telling yourself this false equivalence lie.
Say really quick: can you confirm to me that you agree Xi and Putin are at least if not more so corrupt, psychopathic, and/or evil?
Xi? Have you been to China? They have affordable housing, Healthcare, education and transportation. They have less people in prison per capita than the United States.
Ah, and there it is.
Just kinda sorta kicking the brutal mistreatment of Uyghurs, Tibetans, or Tienamen under the rug conveniently, I see, eh? Do you enjoy the attempted imperial conquest of Taiwan China is obviously partaking in? What are labor conditions like there? How do you like those child sweat shops? Do you like that China gets to censor images like Xi as Winnie the Pooh? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised one who endorses authoritarianism over democratic principles, though. Not exactly free and transparent journalism there when anyone who opposes the CCP get disappeared conveniently, now is it? And how do you like that China is actively funneling weapons and mercenaries to Russia to use in imperial conquest and murder of women and children in Ukraine? Tell me, who are you sincerely believing in acknowledging the number of prison people per capita than the US, and what are the comparative living conditions of those prisons compared to the USA? As China goes full-steam on industrialization and capitalism, their pollution rates are significantly worse than USA as well in terms of concerns for climate change.
Also I noticed you dodged the entire rest of my comment, so please acknowledge this fact: Trump already killed more children than Obama and Biden combined over 12 years with his cuts to USAID, WHO, and Paris Climate Accords alone, leaving aside the 40% excess covid deaths peer reviewed scientific studies indicate from his disastrous covid pandemic response but keep telling yourself this false equivalence lie.
Parroting western propaganda that has been debunked thoroughly isn’t the gotcha that you think it is. What does the United Nations say about the treatment of the Uyghurs? Surely there must be some evidence other than Adrian zenz’ testimony?
Name one of those issues the Unites States doesn’t have in spades. 🙄
Really, is Whataboutism the best you’ve got? 🙄
Your comment made the comparison between China and the United States bud. It’s not whataboutism just because I’m challenging you on it. You opened it up for discussion. 🤷♂️
Actually that’s incorrect. If you go back far enough, you’ll find I was primarily comparing Biden and Obama to Trump. Then you hyper-fixated strangely on my second brief question regarding your opinion of Xi and Putin, which was a bait that you fell for. Thank you for that.
🙄
It’s shocking to me how much ego liberals have while getting absolutely spanked by Trump and MAGA.
Don’t mention the Uyghurs around tankies. At least if you want to keep your sanity and/or believe in the inherent goodness of people.
You know what rattles my belief in humanity? Supposed leftists regurgitating capitalist propaganda because they are afraid of being labeled a “genocide-denier” without even doing the research to see if the claim that there is no genocide in Xinjiang holds any water.
If you agree that capitalism is bad and that capitalist media exists to uphold the status quo, why do you just blindly trust the capitalists when they say there is a genocide? Especially when they deny the genocide in Gaza that is literally being televised every day. Obviously capitalist media cannot be relied upon for the truth.
Anyway, here’s some reading if you want to break out of the capitalist media bubble and start thinking for yourself: https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang
It amuses me that your comment was down-voted automatically in literally less than 30 seconds of posting, which means there are actual bot farms on here down-voting the mere mention thereof. I only noticed because I happened to refresh and see the notification that you replied to me.
Though sadly yeah, I know what you say is true.
My comment has no downvotes. I just don’t upvote my own comments.
Oh interesting, do you manually down-vote yourself to 0 or is there a setting for that?
I just remove the upvote on my comment after posting.
Keeping all the liberL bullshit you vommited about PRC aside (I dont like the PRC for being revisionist)
Killing children is not a contest that makes biden and obama accepatable, hope that helps and lessens your bloodthirst
Keep attacking strawman while purporting a false equivalence fallacy. Golly how I dream to live in your utopian fantasy-land of purity tests.
not killing children is not utopian or purity testing, its question of basic humanity. The GOP and democrats differ almost on nothing except the cutlure war.
I’m in agreement but tell that to the dead Children of Ukraine, whose weapons supplies and troops used by Russia originate from China, buddy.
Democrats harm less children than GOP. I already proved that without any refutation whatsoever. Harming fewer children = better.
And Xi harms less children even than the democrats so he is good.
God, libslop like this is so fucking funny to read.
libslop.
What influencer trained you to say this?
The usage of the suffix -slop is well entrenched in modern English, I don’t even watch “influencers.”
Might rhyme closely with PissOn Hiker
hasan is a liberal himself lmfao
looooooooooool
Not even lib but nice try, little buddy lol. Your pretentious ad hominem (But thank you tankie for opening the door) deflections precede your actual knowledge and understanding.
For all our sake, I hope you’re just young (say, below 22-years-old?) and naive. Lay off the twitch chat and venture out in the world.
Wait so you’re a non liberal that regurgitates lib talking points? You don’t even know what an ad hominem is, obviously, so I guess I’d say your lashing out “precedes your actual knowledge and understanding.”
FTFY. Easily-caught Circular Reasoning Fallacy. Be better, kiddo!
Yeah baby, irrefutable facts that China is imperialist with their… not invading even land they consider their own [Taiwan] for 50 years. Very strong imperialist tendencies there.
You can learn more about their oppression of their people here
Easy to keep the prisons clear when you just ‘dissappear’ anyone that disagrees with you.
Source?
how is Xi evil actually? what evil has he done on his own?
Yes or No: Under Xi, he is funneling both Chinese citizens and arms to Russia to use in Russia’s illegal and inhumane invasion of Ukraine.
Almost every nation participating in global trade is doing that
is this something unique to Xi or PRC
“Everyone is doing it” / “Two wrongs make a right” / Whataboutism fallacy. Leaving aside the boldfaced false-equivalence.
So imperialism and arms trafficking and complicity in genocide is okay if it’s China doing it, is that right?
No, its okay if the democrats do that
So, like, are you saying that I should have voted for Trump? That’s literally the OP meme lol
Are you under the impression Trump ran in the 2020 primaries against Biden?
Ah, well, egg on my face 🤷♀️ Who was your pick in the 202 primaries?
My only hope is that one day when you’re an adult you look back at this comment and realize how fucking stupid it was.
It’s ok. Kids are dumb and make mistakes. They say the darndest things.
One of Bidens last acts before leaving office was opening up several detention centers for ICE. He continued weapon sales and aid to Israel long after their actions were widely recognized as a genocide. Biden did nothing to meaningfully preemptively protect us from the things we knew were obvious Trump was going to do. I’m not saying Trump isn’t worse, but I don’t think history will make Biden look any better.
as would any other candidate, it wasnt going to stop with biden or harris, it will be any DNC/GOP. decades of ongoing support for zionist Israel isnt going to suddenly stop, besides israel/aipac funnels back our tax dollars back tot he same politicians, plus they have numerous propaganda apparatus to help with that.
Biden was the Democratic nominee and here we are 6 years later under Trump. 🤷♂️ There were other candidates who would have made sure Trump ended up serving time for his convictions. Biden failed just like I knew he would.