• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    So do you complain in stories about Trump doing stupid and evil things with “a nagging feeling that it’s just to help justify the next move of Iran?”

    You admit the Iranian government “sucks” yet news of them doing bad things surely must be American propaganda? Even from a British paper?

    Conspiracy thinking does us all no good.

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        7 hours ago

        Yes - conspiracy theorists are great at finding any and all possible supporting evidence no matter how poor. Just vague general “relationships” is sufficient.

        They’ve worked together in the past != The guardian ran this to support Trump.

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          6 hours ago

          WTF? This is in no way a conspiracy, this has been known for decades, USA instated the Shah to get control of the Iranian oil.
          And your false equivalence is outright stupid.

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              1 hour ago

              No you are way off, the nationality of the outlet has very little bearing on whether it might be American propaganda or not.
              Claiming that because it’s a British outlet it can’t be American propaganda is outright moronic.

              Edit:
              Why is this downvoted? He claimed exactly this, if you look 3 of his posts up he wrote:

              bad things surely must be American propaganda? Even from a British paper?

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                  1 hour ago

                  That’s exactly what you claimed with this line 3 of your posts up from the above:

                  bad things surely must be American propaganda? Even from a British paper?

                  This was the place the argument came from. So again I repeat because you apparently need it, the nationality of the paper has no bearing on whether it may be American propaganda.

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                    34 minutes ago

                    That’s exactly what you claimed with this line 3 of your posts up from the above:

                    The absolute arrogance of thinking you know better than me what I’m saying. Bye.

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      6 hours ago

      It can be true but also propaganda, or just coincidentally the kind of news Zionists would like to see (truthfully). It’s hard to tell.

      I think it’s worth including this meta context when discussing the article.

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        5 hours ago

        It can also just be an article about an objectively totalitarian regime doing horrible things.

        Sometimes a banana is just a banana.

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          38 minutes ago

          You don’t think it’s both true and useful to bad actors?

          Nothing is “just” anything. We live in a society etc

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            33 minutes ago

            Nothing is “just” anything. We live in a society etc

            The cry of the conspiracy theorists!! “THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES” “FOLLOW THE MONEY”!