• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    You don’t have to like Iran to say starting a war with them is idiotic and shouldn’t be happening.

    I absolutely agree. It was an incredibly stupid idea.

    You do however have to be acting in bad faith or have your head up your ass to see that as supporting the regime.

    I’m not criticizing your criticism of the war. I’m criticizing your jumping to the defense of Iran that I should “level my outrage” at them due to them being at war. No. No I should not.

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      Two separate people so no obviously its nothing to do with my criticism.

      No I mean the examples provided are exactly the same thing Israel does as well ie. You’re outrage heavily favors Israel and the usa given the exact same stated issues occur from both but your outrage favors Israel “for some reason”.

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        You’re basically saying “nobody’s perfect”.

        You’re outrage heavily favors Israel and the usa

        I was stating a fact. Not outrage.

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          No I’m saying there both doing the same thing but Israel is actively invading their neighbors in multiple. So two things they’re both doing and one that only one is doing? Are those equal things? No. They for what “mystery reason” is your outrage directed at Iran and not Israel?

          Also that’s not a fact that’s an opinion but sure, close enough for government work I suppose.

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            Also that’s not a fact that’s an opinion but sure, close enough for government work I suppose.

            It’s a fact that Iran has killed protesters and supported terrorist groups.

            But if your contribution to every discussion is “oh yeah - other people are doing bad things” then you’re pointless.

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              It will be nice and stable once Iran can get back to killing protesters and supporting terror groups according to their fundamental religious beliefs.

              Opinion, not a fact. It includes some facts, it itself however is an opinion.

              That’s literally your position, Israel does the same shit and actively started the war with Iran that is the cause of the current instability but your statement implies Iran is the reason for the current instability which is just objectively observably incorrect.

              Iran has been a problem like I dunno 1969 when they attempted to invade Israel, now the roles are reversed and your favoritism is still towards the instigator and aggressors.

              You’re a bigot, you could at least be honest about it or more subtle but at the moment you may as well be screaming “i don’t like Muslims or brown people!” because none of your reasoning follows basic logic.

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                  9 hours ago

                  Oh buhu muh leftists, your entire presence in this thread reeks of desperation

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                  Both of them are religious fundamentalists my horrifically unobservant friend. No one is batting for anything but stopping a war.

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                    I get that people love to deride America as descending into fascism but one of these two is LITERALLY a theocratic dictatorship with a “supreme leader” chosen from clerics to “guide” the nation according to their interpretation of Islam.