Much is said about lead and crime rates, I’m wondering about the more mundane things.
I’m not THAT old but have worked for long enough to remember smoking offices. Like, people smoking at their desks.
I’ve surely experienced a decline in aggression in my workplaces over my career but think it has more to do with getting better jobs over time. An office is different from a flea market, restaurant, or retail.
Gen X here. There has been huge shift in office culture, and the generational shift from boomers out of it has led to a completely different experience, with the biggest shift being in the decrease in overt misogyny and outbursts of anger. Most of my worst bosses were from this generation, including one individual that would literally start screaming and hitting the wall when something went wrong.
Their generation is marked by a lack of impulse control and a deep inner rage that can often be triggered by trivial inconveniences. They also seem to have a vindictiveness to them that I never really understood, holding grudges far past their expiration date. This is in significant contrast to their parents’ generation, which, for all its problems, always seemed to treat us Gen X folks kindly.
Their generation is marked by a lack of impulse control and a deep inner rage that can often be triggered by trivial inconveniences. They also seem to have a vindictiveness to them that I never really understood, holding grudges far past their expiration date.
oh shit i might be a boomer
Either that or you need to stop drinking gasoline…
Something something wrong week something something sniffing glue
What makes you think lead poisoning has wound down as GenX ages into taking over from the Boomers?
What does this chart even show? People’s lead levels are at 100%?
Edit: okay I understand it now after examining it closer but this seems to contradict what I’ve heard about lead bans in gasoline and paint causing the crime rates to begin dropping in the late 90s and beyond around 20 years after the bans due to these children reaching adulthood without having been exposed like previous generations. This graph seems to show that it was only GenX who were exposed to a lot of lead, which doesn’t make a lot of sense since this stuff was around long before they were born.
This chart doesn’t show the adult blood lead levels boomers had through continuing exposure. They didn’t get as huge a dose as kids, but they got it for longer.
But yeah, you’re understanding why I am asking why people think this is becoming less of an issue. It’s just shifting a bit. As a GenXer myself, I would probably be ok with an age limit of like 40 to hold political office at this point. Neither we nor the boomers can be trusted.
To be honest, I don’t know how much I trust younger people either with all the plastic in our brains.
It’s buckets of people that had those different lead levels, so it adds up to everyone.
That corresponds with the period people quit smoking so the anecdata may be affected (by people on short fuse because of nicotine withdrawals). An increase of women in the workforce may also be a potential factor (either way).
Fuck, getting flashbacks to when my boss quit smoking back in like 2011. He became a dictator overnight.
I’m still convinced most boomers are still contaminated. They still own a lot of stuff filled with lead or were too stubborn to give it up. I’m purposefully breaking my parent’s corningwear when I visit because they are too fucking stubborn to stop using it.
You can almost tell the difference between someone with high lifetime lead exposure and someone without. It’s sad and frustrating.
Can you reference a source that shows Corningware contains or leaches lead?
Different brand but apparently it is a thing that was done previously: https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2022/05/30/corelle-responds-to-viral-post-about-its-vintage-dishware-lead-exposure/
I found very few news stories, mostly just people discussing the topic.
It seems this person has personally detected the presence of lead in older corningware: https://tamararubin.com/2019/03/how-much-lead-is-in-my-vintage-corning-casserole-here-are-pictures-of-each-one-i-have-tested-with-links-to-the-post-with-test-results/
That blogger claims everything contains lead. It’s her m.o. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
Corning Ware doesn’t contain lead.
corningware does contain lead in the glazes used for the colored patterns on the sides.
Do you have a citation for this that doesn’t lead back to “lead safe mama”?
That’s who I found when trying to learn things. Are her reported test results inaccurate?
From my reading on the subject, vintage corningware baking dishes have high levels lead in the glazes used for the colored patterning. They seem to consistently test negative for lead on the white surfaces used for cooking.
Lead can get into your food as those colored patterns wear off, and the dishes get washed. It is a danger, but corningware isn’t directly marinating your food with lead.
Lead is still in many kitchen products. Its mainly in paints and colored glazes, and other coatings. Though corningware is bad, there are many other sources of lead in many other parts of the kitchen.
How would it get into your food, when your food is only on the inside of the dish?
Honestly it’s a toss up comparing old stuff to modern glazes. It’s all contaminated.
Too many changes over 30 years to possibly define how much that did/didn’t matter.
Not when you consider the extremely high impact of lead poisoning.
That’s not how determining causation works, especially when applying it to something so nebulous as “the office.” There is no doubt it had an impact but determining how much vs. other factors is basically impossible if you’re looking at decades and such a broad net.
It’s a question on Lemmy, not a rigorous scientific study.
They have a point though. You could make the same argument that office culture is better once computers became ubiquitous during this exact same time period.
Yeah like I get they’re just trying to have a fun thought exercise, but I could point to so many things off the top of my head as reasonable, equally valid explanations
I get that, but the point is you can’t even remotely answer this question without one lol and even then it’s a VERY difficult question to answer.
So yeah you’re right, but then that means it’s a bad question if we’re going to go that route with this. How on earth could any of us determine this, even anecdotally?
I get this seems pedantic but it’s just not a question anyone can answer even informally.
Watch the TV series “Mad Men”, it was like this for real…
