• Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social
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    3 days ago

    Y’know, I understand where you’re coming from, but my dad did his time in the military, including a stint in Vietnam. He’s 81 now, and I don’t see the harm in giving him a little bit off of a bill for his service. He’s not obnoxious about it, but will sometimes ask, and take it if it’s available. If not, no big deal.

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      3 days ago

      This has more to do with propaganda. Where are the discounts for all other contributors to our functional society? Do the garbage people or the electrical worker or sewer worker get discounts?

      Its all part of a much larger scale propaganda across our countries history.

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          A lot of seniors are just assholes but not part of a murder industry. Lots of military worship straight up feeds into fascism and nationalism. Fuck that.

          A ton of them later become cops too.

          So you guarded a pointless fucking parking lot at a base in New Mexico, whoopdeedoo, you’re a vet for life and everyone will bend over for you. But the teachers at our nearby school just keep getting fucked over? All the government workers who ensure our basic infrastructure works don’t matter?

          It’s all tilted for a reason. Fuck that reason.

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          I really don’t get why a senior ex-military has better benefits than a normal senior. One is a benefit everyone applies and another is a benefit that a specific subset applies, and it’s not like they do things that are more important than those that work everyday in the country to keep it running.

          A kid spends 5 years in military, lifetime discounts. A teacher spends 5 years teaching, lifetime debt. I really don’t get the point.

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            A kid spends 5 years in military, lifetime discounts. A teacher spends 5 years teaching, lifetime debt. I really don’t get the point.

            Excellent example. Completely agree. This is part of the point I was making.

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            I was highlighting the fallacy in your argument, but that was clearly a waste of time.

            You obviously don’t know the history of veterans in the U.S. or what brought this type of culture to the U.S.

            You probably see the military as an extension of a government you hate (understandable) and think of its members as fully endorsing said government (not correct at all).

            That you get butthurt over a discount says a lot about you though.

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              If it’s due to history of mistreatment and lack of care, then by that logic we should give all minorities a discount as well.

              But here’s the thing. Today’s soldier ain’t even CLOSE to dealing with what Vietnam vets or older vets dealt with.

              Today’s wannabe Punisher is just a likely wife beater loser who had no direction in life, served a few years, became even more bro, and then went to a policing agency afterwards where he could flex his control fetish over the general populace. That motherfucker that needlessly makes every interaction more intense than necessary needs a blanket of worship for simply having signed up to serve in a military that basically takes anyone? How special.

              Our garbage collectors do more difficult and thankless work today than most military. Tending to the Officers golf courses doesn’t warrant shit.

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              I’m not the same person of the original comment. For you to personally insult me while not bothering to read the name of the user says a lot about you too though.

              I hope you have a great day.

              Edit: Also, nowhere in my comment did I mention that I hated the US government or the military because it’s completely besides the point, I said that I didn’t understand why a subset of people that contribute as much as others are supposed to get get special privileges. I’m not even from the US, it’s not a thing where I’m from. You sure assumed a lot about me.

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                You think that’s an insult?

                I’m commenting on a behavior, not a person.

                Doesn’t matter if are not OP, your sentiment is clearly the same and my comment still stands.

                Your comment, however, screams that you are faux offended, so you can feel like you are on the high road.

                Edit: No place I know l let’s you have a vet AND a senior discount. It’s one or the other

                I see student discounts a lot. What has a student done that an electrician hasn’t, so that the student deserves a discount but not the electrician?

                The right answer: Who gives a shit?

                It’s a STUPID FUCKING argument that just highlights a really fucking petty person.

                Now if a person acts entitled to a discount, then that is an entirely different story.

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      Tell me why your father should be rewarded for when they performed the most horrible actions on other humans that anyone can think of?

      If anything, they should pay more, and the money should go to all the families they have destroyed.

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      I thought it was a joke, but people really are butthurt about vets.

      History just loves to repeat itself.

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      He should ask just like all Veterans. No big deal if they do not offer discount but nice when they do. It is just a small gesture of support.

      People think Military/Service members are bootlickers on Reddit and here I guess. Reality is people join for various reasons a big reason is to support family. The government owns you during that time. You miss celebrations with family like; birthdays, holidays, marriages, and funerals. I know someone will say “well they volunteered.” That is right they did and you didn’t have to volunteer.

      This meme is pretty bad to be real. People out here risking/giving their life for you. Man humanity is sliding into the abyss everyday.

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        3 days ago

        My problem with the whole thing is well expressed by Bojack Horseman.

        An IT technician who spends their entire career in air-conditioned offices in their home country but happens to be employed by the army is worthy of adoration, special treatment and prioritisation, but obviously a nurse saving lives on a daily basis and facing routine abuse from violent drunks and psychotic nutcases can fuck right off because they work at a privately-owned hospital.

        Drawing a circle around the armed forces saying “these people are deserving of unquestionable praise and arbitrary benefits” is the same as saying “no-one else is” and it’s insulting to the intelligence of everyone involved.

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          At a certain point people just make excuses. First responders receive more discounts than Veterans. Because they are on the front lines everyday. I support that idea.

          You are missing a lot of the sacrifices that Veterans make with a generalization. Required to move every 2-4 years. Deploy to various countries for unknown amount of time with less than 24hrs sometimes. Not being able to communicate with loved ones on a regular basis. Not coming back home with all your body parts or your battle buddy. But hey maybe there is a IT person sitting in a AC room in US. So screw all Veterans makes sense I guess?

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            Cops receive more discounts than veterans. Firefighters/emts get jack shit in comparison.

            You can even make the argument, a lot like the military one, that it is more deserved. ‘Paying’ a cop to be at your store temporarily in the form of a discount gets you pretty cheap security.