• JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    It’s nice of the people on the list to out themselves. At this rate we can just compile it ourselves.

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      I think that’s the only reason for this change in tune from the guy.

      IMO, it’s blatant and transparent.

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      I think this is pretty unlikely, but will apologize if im wrong. My logic is that Trump already hates King and has openly feuded with him. Since there haven’t been any criminal cases yet, it seems that whatever evidence is in the files wasn’t enough for DOJ to feel like they could win a conviction, but because Trump is a petulant dumb fuck I expect he would have made Bondi bring charges for even the most tenous circumstantial evidence if it was against someone he doesn’t like. But then again Trump may think the files give him leverage over anyone even barely mentioned in the files and not want to lose that leverage, so I could be absolutely wrong.

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        Well, you have no reason to apologize, at this point, everyone is just speculating. However, I think the only reasonable and logical explanation, is that Stephen King is somehow, involved. He never was in any capacity or position to know everything in the case in detail. So he’s either lying about his certainty and knowledge, or he is involved, no other inference can be made.

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    I mean, there is almost certainly no “The List”, “2003-02-23: Donald John Trump, 3 pedophilia, paid by bank transfer”.
    There are terabytes of call logs, text messages, videos, photos, location logs, witness testimonies, whatever samples, and fuck knows what else.

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    Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing “UFO” to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn’t identify at some point or another. “UFO” does not automatically mean “extraterrestrial spacecraft.”

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      What claim is he even trying to make here? “Everyone knows someone who’s seen [the Epstein files]”? Nobody’s seen them, and nobody knows anyone who has, and that’s the whole issue.

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        He’s acting strangely compared to the way he’s been in the past. Did he have a Fetterman stroke or something?

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          He’s a former coke addict and an alcoholic. That shit really catches up with you as you age. My father was a cocaine addict and drunk for decades before he cleaned up. He’s already had multiple strokes, a double bypass, and a severe bladder infection and he’s barely cracked 60. Conversations with him are hard because the strokes left him with difficulties formulating a sentence let alone holding a coherent opinion on any topic deeper than the weather.

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      Yeah… All dude had to say was, “Yeah, I meant of course that a literal list of clients with the big fat title “Client List” doesn’t exist.” Instead he doubles down? Why is everyone suddenly just a balls to the wall massive troll and douche? Man, fuck these people so hard they can never rape children or protect those that do again.

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        “I’m just the guy that’s going to fuck you so hard your assholes going to be dragging behind you like a tail” - Vigilante

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      Yeah that analogy is a pretty shitty one. There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical about UFOs/UAPs/Flying Saucers, or whatever you want to call them, even if I do not believe in batshit crazy conspiracies related to them. There are no reasons to believe that Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy can be real, that is just folklore.

      Shocking that someone like him, would do such a ill-conceived analogy, even if anyone considers that in modern society, alien shit can be considered folklore, it is still very much within the realm of possibility.

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        Shocking that someone like him would do such a ill-conceived analogy

        It really was notable. I agree with another commenter who said King’s substance abuse past seems to be catching up with him. He sounds like a snarky right-wing asshole, and he used to be better than that.

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    7 days ago

    Sounds a lot like Stephen King is very likely to be a pedophile that has raped children on Epstein’s island 🤔

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    I’d like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It’s not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I’ll believe he’s a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.

    Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? “We did it reddit lemmy!”

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      You telling me there’s a chance that a writer, known for snorting enough cocaine to kill an elephant whilst writing a story where a group of boys run a train on a young girl, might have visited an island known for its drugs and sex trafficking young girls?

      🤔

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      I don’t think a lot of people read the book. Anyone who has knows that Stephen King shouldn’t be around children.

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      sorry about that.

      sucks even people you respected and appreciated end up defending pedos and are highly likely to be pedos themselves.

      it is a bit heartbreaking.

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        Fame and fortune do not automatically grant a person good judgment. In fact, one could effectively argue that obtaining the former two frequently and demonstrably decreases whatever amount of the latter one may have had.

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      7 days ago

      Or he’s mocking the administration for insisting they had a list and suddenly heel turning on it. Given who he is, one of those is a bit more likely, don’t you think?

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        King, an individual of wealth and status with known pedophilic tendencies (just take that scene from IT for example but there are plenty more throughout his works) and history of drug abuse, being involved with Epstein, the high profile individual who is now known for trafficking underage girls and party drugs to individuals of wealth and status, is not a far stretch to make.

        Also, the way his tweet is phrased does not come off in any way as mocking the administration but instead feels to be mocking those who believe there exists documentation that exposes a list of individuals.

        It could just be poor phrasing but, because of that, it is hella suspicious and given the extra context mentioned above makes it that much more.

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          Having written supremely fucked up content doesn’t mean he has “known pedophilic tendencies”. People have made assumptions about authors who wrote all forms of horror or produced other media because they are repulsed by the content of the media. As an example, Rob Zombie has made films about mass murder, rape, incest, and the guy is a friendly vegan.

          Without knowing his intent, I think this is an example of poor phrasing. If anything that’s supported by his later tweet:

          Did Epstein traffic young girl(sic)? Yes, of course. Is there a client list? Doubtful. Conspiracy fodder.

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          there are plenty more throughout his works

          I’m not saying that isn’t true, but there was a time when I was ‘caught up’ on Stephen King novels for the most part, and I don’t remember anything like that. The only ones I had skipped was “The Shining”, “IT”, and “Christine”. I tried reading of them at one point and couldn’t get into them. I stopped reading him I think it was around the time he started writing about Cell phones. Maybe a little before. I don’t remember any pedophillic type stuff in any of his other novels. Could you tell me which books you are referencing?

          I’m going to feel like an idiot if I’ve somehow missed something like this.

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            From a post on the other site:

            @be_passersby

            The most uncomfortable I’ve been reading one of King’s books is in Bag of Bones with Mike Noonan’s obvious sexual attraction to a three year old.

            I wouldn’t call it an opinion… here, I’ll give you some quotes, you can make up your own mind:

            Upon his first meeting her: “I felt like Chester the Molester the second I had my arm locked under her bottom. I was very aware that anyone could look out and see me. This is one of the strange midlife realities of my generation: we can’t touch a child who isn’t our own without fearing others will see something lecherous in our touching … or without thinking, way down deep in the sewers of our psyches, that there probably IS something lecherous in it.”

            His very next thought is this: “She was bright-eyed, smiling. I figured that she’d probably be pregnant by the time she was twelve, especially given the cool way she was wearing her baseball cap.”

            He describes her as “comely”, “pretty”, “the bathing beauty”, and “Miss Bosox of 1998”. When she talks, he narrates that it “sounded exotic - the Vietnamese word for ‘ecstasy’, perhaps.”

            He thinks to himself, “I was glad I was too old to be one of her future boyfriends”, then imagines her getting pregnant before high school. Then he thinks maybe he’s gone too far there: “She’s three years old and you’ve already got her with three kids of her own, two with ringworm and one retarded.”

            When he meets the three year old’s mother, his initial thought is that she “looked all of twelve, fourteen at the outside.” (That’s the second mention of a twelve year old mother, by the way.) We find out later in one of his dreams where he’s raping her that he thought she looked so young mainly because her breasts were “tiny like teacups”. Toward the end of the dream he murders the three year old, then wakes up ejaculating into the lake!?

            Of course by the end of the story, this young single mother is literally pleading for him to bone her (pun intended), and when he does, how does he describe the feel of her skin? “Her skin was warm, and silky as her daughter’s.”

            So, how many times did you throw up reading that?

            Yeah, a few.

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              Gross, yeah that’s fucked up.

              I didn’t remember anything about that book other than it was a ghost story and thinking it wasn’t good. It actually wasn’t too long after that when I stopped reading him. When he wrote the second book about a scary car I figured he had said all he was going to say. I guess that was before the one about scary cell phones.

              It sucks. People suck. I’m glad I stopped reading his books over a quarter century ago.

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            Go read threads deeper down this post, it is filled with examples.

            King’s pedophilic tendencies show in his unnecessarily sexualized descriptions of teenage characters. I specifically say unnecessary as sexualized language is just part and parcel of depicting scenes of sexual abuse and violence, and many of his works are touch on these topics. Most of it, though, is just “creepy and unnecessary”, like his infatuation with detailed descriptions of their breasts, or just a sentence or two that is kinda cringe but can readily be passed over quickly.

            Like in Carrie he writes at length on how smooth and attractive her legs are. In Under the Dome there is a paragraph that goes into unnecessary detail about a teenager girl’s pubic hair. In his short story, The Jaunt, where a father is thinking about his children growing up at home without him; the boy is thought about as simply “going through puberty” whereas the thoughts about his daughter are about how she should be starting to develop breasts.

            Another comment mentioned another short story where a daughter, now grown, dwells on her dad cumming with her in his lap during an eclipse when she was like 9, but they don’t mention the name of the story.

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          For sure, but he doesn’t exactly have to care if people read their own meaning into it instead of what he originally intended. I think it’s telling where people’s biases are if they assume he’s a pedophile for a tweet like this. It’s way more important to go after the real ones than the people who fail one person’s personal purity test.

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            Well, it’s not like I’m hiring a PI or anything. The only difference is whether or not I’ll read his books. And since I believe strongly in the death of the author, and also in public libraries, he’s not making any money off me either way.

            I just think his post and the way he said it puts him in a very bad light. As an author, he should be better able to convey his tone.