I am asking this question, because there does not seem to be a modern logical solution.
I hear a lot of people say that socialism might solve a lot of problems, but I don’t think it has any practicality.
Looking at jobs hiring trends, a lot of businesses are almost stopping their hirings, in favour of investing in automation. Which means 5-10 years down the line, “worker owned” might be closer to fiction.
AI is replacing a lot of jobs now and while the trend that new technologies create jobs, I think that jobs might come after 15-40 years.
Are humanity hopeless?
Fire the firer
All problems have their root in capitalism. So lets stop treating the symptoms but rip out the roots!
Remove Capitalism, then what?
Wdym then what? socialism. Working towards a united global federal republic. With strong seperation of power and strong defended democracy that never no one could pull a lenin/stalin/mao
I mean I think you’ve already asked a similar questiom before, I’ll re-iterate:
Automation is built by working class people, so it’s only fair for the results of that automation to also benefit the working class, basically: Universal Basic Income.
Nobody says “end capitalism” ? On Lemmy ? Really ? I’m so disappointed 😠 But yes that’s the solution
There. I did it. Its strange no one suggested that.
There is no one solution that applies to multiple unspecified problems.
Pick a specific one if you want actual discussions and answers.
Overcoming capitalism and creating a socialist federal global republic solves all problems.
Climat change? Due to capitalism. Housing crisis? Due to capitalism. Polution? Due to capitalism. Racism? Today it only exists because people get told to fear for their live and their lively hood being taken away but if that is secured there is nothing that can be manipulated with fear.
Wars? Cant have wars if its all one united federalised republic.
Corruption? Due to capitalism. Uneducated? Due to capitalism. Trump and his friends? Capitalism! Poverty? You guessed it! :D
- Human suffering.
- Climate Change.
Human suffering is such a uselessly broad, wide sweeping range of things and happenings that you may as well have said “bad things.”
OK, let us try again here.
Poverty and hunger.
Replace all the social services your country has with a guaranteed basic income. Everyone gets it and it doesn’t run out like unemployment benefits. Another benefit, unlike welfare, is the person can keep working.
guaranteed basic income
This has been studied a lot of times and mostly there is usually 2 concerns:
- How you will finance the whole thing?
- How do people act when you give them extra money?
Now, for the first concern: I had never seen anyone even answer it theoretically.
For the second concern: there is a mixed results, some studies suggest that people productivity gets lower, others suggest otherwise.
I don’t see this even applied in a small village.
Just to be clear, I am talking about the widely known UBI, there is NIT and even other universal welfare schemes. IMO, even other universal welfare schemes has their own set of unsolved issues, and very experimental and idealistic in nature.
Hugh Segal, Canadian Senator was in charge of a UBI study many years ago. He stated that if all of our government handouts, over 60 at the time, were replaced by a UBI the country would save several billion dollars.
I’ll try to find that study.
Why is it that the question of finance is ALWAYS one of the first hurdles when discussing things like climate change and social services, but somehow when it’s for the military or Nazi Gestapo, the money magically materializes?
There exists more than enough money to fund it. We just need to extract it from the billionaires who are hoarding it.
Here is a map of basic income pilot programs from around the world.
Not only has it been studied, the studies have been taking place for over fifty years. Universal basic income is cheaper in practice than the numerous other social programs that help people who either can’t work, shouldn’t work or can’t work enough to afford their needs.
In a lot of cases the people who choose to work less do so because they have children, health issues or dependants.
UBI is funded by taxes, it’s actually not has hard as it seems because people always do the math in the “logical” way and it isn’t actually the right way to consider the cost.
If you give a UBI of say $10,000 a year to everyone (let’s just keep it simple) for every citizen in Canada (let’s say 40 million people) you’d think that the total cost would be $400 Billion dollars a year, right?
Except that’s not how it actually works, what you’d do at the same time is raise taxes (preferably on property, but stupid politicians gonna put it on income instead) so that it balances around a specific income level getting nothing, with people above that level paying in, and people below that amount receiving a benefit. So if you’ve got a family of 4 (2 adults, 2 kids) with a median family income of say $80k (again, just keeping it simple) you’d raise their taxes by $30,000 a year, and then give them $40,000 a year in basic income. Then you’ve got a well-to-do family making $150,000 a year that pays $60,000 more in taxes, and only gets $40,000 a year back.
The total “cost” of the program is actually only the net amount transferred. It’s easy to understand this if you think through a situation, when you tax someone $40,000, then give them $40,000 the total cost of that transfer is zero.
If you tax one person $20,000, give them $10,000, tax another person $10,000, and give them $10,000, and tax a third person $0 (not working) and give them $10,000 then the ACTUAL cost for the whole program is only $10,000, despite total taxes being $30,000, and total payouts being $30,000. So instead of costing $400 Billion for all of Canada, depending on what number they balance the whole thing around, it could be a reasonable amount and still cost under $100 billion a year.
There’s actually a study from the Parliamentary Budget Office of Canada that outlines the more realistic cost.
This would apply similarly to any other country attempting to implement such a policy.
Right away it would be significantly less than $400bil. Only adults would recieve UBI, and there would be savings from eliminating EI, Disabilty, Income Assistance, and OAS.
You just need to solve greed.
How do you do that?
That is from my opinion, impossible to achieve.
Capitalism encourages it. Socialism discourages it.
It’s a start.
“How do we get out of this well? I don’t think ropes have any practicality.”
If you want to control the allowed extent of suffering, you need a government that attempts to do so. There is no alternative. Social programs and regulations are what keep us safe from greed, nothing else.
OP asked the question but doesn’t want the answer.
A lot of world problems could be solved if humanity as a whole had a bit more compassion and empathy for others
Humanity thrives on revolutionary new ways of social organisation. This is the end stages of the current one that is about to eat itself. Nobody knows what comes next. My personal guess is that humanity will keep doing this cycle of improving itself and letting decadence and greed make revolution inevitable many many many times over. People in every epoch of history so far have proclaimed it to be the last and yet here we are. For the good and the bad, it’s all part of the biological programming that makes humanity what it is.
We haven’t had a series of assassinations for at least 2 generations. Just pointing it out.
Do you want a quick and easy solution that could never work but would fit in a reply on Lemmy?
Death solves all problems. No man, no problem.
Nuclear Armageddon. /s obviously…
There’s probably about 3x as many people as there should be, but there are no good solutions to that. I think a Logans Run style setup might work as long as there’s a cool laser show and some cool music to go with it I think it could gain popularity as a spectator event.
I plan on dying before they affect me.
Federalism
One last fuck party before we let the moss take us.
