• Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    There are very few in Russia who are against this war for the right reasons. It is a myth that this is Putin’s war and the poor meek Russian people are just going along with it. The vast majority in Russia are chesty thumping nationalists who support the war whole heartedly.

    You are betraying all of the people who are against the war or are avoiding making themselves into nationalist cogs

    I am betraying no one, I owe nothing to those people, again why do you think I personally owe these people I have never met anything. They were betrayed by their own leadership, stop trying to pass the blame onto me.

    I have no hope for any anarchist revolution in Russia since they betrayed Nestor Makhno. Russians only know how to bow down to a strong warlord.

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      3 days ago

      you would betray them if you punish “russians” collecting a group of people and calling them “russians”, state members, regardless of self identification is nationalistic, you are the nationalist if that is what you do.

      “russians betrayed machno”, no it was the bolsheviks, the living bolsheviks alive then, not now

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        2 days ago

        I am ok with being a nationalist if that is what you are describing. I believe the vast majority of the Russian population supports the war and Vladimir Putin. There are very few in Russia opposed to the war and even less doing anything about it. It is impossible to somehow exclude these people from the effects of sanctions so they must live with what their brothers and sisters do in their name and the consequences of this.

        You somehow think that I personally owe the “good” Russians something but that Russia does not have to take responsibility for its own past actions? It sounds like you have no moral consistency and make up rules to suit whatever your current agenda is. The Bolsheviks formed and ran the USSR, Russia is the successor state to the USSR. Russia accepted all debts and assets of the former USSR and is its officially recognised successor state. Russia does not get to take credit for all of the USSRs achievements while disowning all of the horrible acts like the Holodomor.

        The betrayal of Makhno set anarchism back in order to preserve the vertical power structures the Bolsheviks ended up keeping as part of their “communist” government. The Bolsheviks embody Russian culture that has been present since they gained independence from the Mongols, I suspect the years of subjugation played a part. Endless expansion, lying and betrayal is the culture of Russia. The world will not miss the Russian empire after it collapses.

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          2 days ago

          You do not seem capable of modelling the world in sufficient detail for compassion and you should be nowhere near a violence monopoly.

          You use the abstraction of russia to include people who are not self identified russians, this boar headedness is dangerous

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            2 days ago

            Compassion to the degree you are trying to force on me is overrated. The EU is currently experiencing what bleeding heart compassion gets you, uncontrolled migration and a beligerent neighbour who mistakes kindness for weakness. I hope the EU has seen the error in their ways and seems to be waking up to the issue.

            I do not understand what you mean when you say I

            should be nowhere near a violence monopoly.

            This statement makes no sense to me. I understand the concept of states having a monopoly on violence within their borders, one could even describe the USA having a near monopoly on global violence. I have never heard the term being used as you have, maybe a loss in translation?

            You use the abstraction of russia to include people who are not self identified russians, this boar headedness is dangerous

            Again more context is necessary to understand who you are talking about, is it the Chechens or the Buryats? Or is it the Bolsheviks I was discussing in the last comment.

            If it is the subjugated people’s of the Russian empire to which you are referring, they have the option of fighting for their freedom. These people seem more interested in fighting Ukrainians for Putin’s gold, they deserve what they get in my view.