As a poly person: no, it is not a “affiar-tolerant monogamy”. That is an open relationship.

Polyamorous partnerships are far more committed. Also, sex is not always a part of it.

Of course there is the concept of a primary partner, but there are lot of poly folks that thislike this idea.

But what all of those relationships have in common: there is no case where only one partner is poly. All is about communication and consent.

And to the core topic: There is this thing like a polycule. A network of people with somehow connected relationships. Breakups in those structures are often consensual and no big fuzz. But if it gets dirty, at least in my experience, the offending member of the polycoule gets shown the door. And most of the times, those are the new ones. People that think the could convince their partner to get monogamous because they are the only one that is needed.

Sorry for the long post, you hit a nerve there ;)

I acknowledge that nobody said that.

And I just said that the current state is not comparable, not yet. The Holocaust started 1940. We are in the precursor though, I never said anything else.

We are on the way to something that can be get as bad as the Holocaust, for sure.

And I don’t see any issue comparing it. But the current comparsion is trivializing what happens 1940 and can happen in the near future again.

And again; that is my perspective and the perspective of some Germans is spoke to over exactly this thread. This does not mean that you should not make those comparisons!

You should be aware about the fact that you will offend people, and, that such memes can be as a matter of fact violating law in some countries. Not this one, but one should know this.

That is all.

And to your last part: 100% on the nose. See, if people start thinking, the the current state is comparable to 1940, then we are fucked. Because 1940 is described as the worsed genocide of the modern world.

And especially Americans misused the word and trivialized the Holocaust. So maybe I am overly sensitive ok this one.

I cite Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor:

I cannot use [the word ‘Holocaust’] anymore. First, because there are no words, and also because it has become so trivialized that I cannot use it anymore. Whatever mishap occurs now, they call it ‘holocaust.’ I have seen it myself in television in the country in which I live. A commentator describing the defeat of a sports team, somewhere, called it a ‘holocaust.’ I have read in a very prestigious newspaper published in California, a description of the murder of six people, and the author called it a holocaust. So, I have no words anymore.

Just because i found out about this today:

Here is the list of removed books from the Nimitz Library (US Marine Academy as far as i know it): https://media.defense.gov/2025/Apr/04/2003683009/-1/-1/0/250404-LIST OF REMOVED BOOKS FROM NIMITZ LIBRARY.PDF

Have a look what was removed: “Memorializing the Holocaust”

What was not removed: “Mein Kampf”.

So, at least some commentors here have something in common with Trumps regime. “Who the fuck cares about what the Holocaust was”

Yes, this is not what you said, but it is what a sentiment like this can lead to.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-antisemitic-hate-speech-nazi-propaganda-holocaust-denial/

https://aktuell.uni-bielefeld.de/2022/10/21/comparing-with-the-holocaust-is-relativizing-history/?lang=en

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_trivialization

A damn lot of people.

I can not influence what is happening in the USA.

The whole argument is based on the fact, that a simple statement acknowledging two different, but both valid, opinions based on different point of view, offended you.

Have a nice day

In all seriousness: any 1935 camp would be appropriate. The similarities are depressing.

Nohra was maybe more humane then what those deported and in quantanamo are experiencing.

I would keep the escalation to Ausschwitz until we reach the next stage at least.

I always said this will offend SOME Germans.

And I never said that this is not a death camp. I never declined the similarities to early nazi Germany.

You are making this shit up in your hat. Come on!

I said, multiple times, that we are not at this Ausschwitz stage YET.

And if you are already using this imagery now, what will you use if we reach this stage?

I responded to a very specific comment.

I acknowledge the need and the status quo.

Of course i am not expressing concern. I do not express concern for people i do not know, that is not how my brain works.

I am concerned about where the road may be leading. I am concerned that 50% of Americans voted for this orange mini hitler.

I am concerned that comparison like this may hide how bad Hitler and the NS regime really was, and therfore how bad it could get.

I am concerned for all of us not just for a few. Because if this goes the Adolf way, we are all done.

I am concerned that, IF Donald fails, the next one comes and is successful.

I am concerned that the American people will not fix their political system that enables this in the first place. Because every mention of this leads to offended comments by Americans because, how dare I, critizing the US two party system, the winner takes it all, and the immense power the president has.

I AM concerned. I don’t need to express this. Thoughts an prayer is American pseudo solidarity, not something that will help.

Because the USA have something Hitler didn’t: fucking nukes.

Holocaust, uppercase, as used here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Or like definined here: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/holocaust?q=Holocaust

The proper noun with upper H is used exclusively for one specific event since the 1970s. And the generic genocide meaning is no more.

But of course in most parts of Europe, nazi symbols are prohibited. For example musks salute would be punishable with jail time here in Germany.

So, again, the USA didn’t get the memo. I did not even think for a second that in the USA this term is still used outside the context.

That is shameful and part of the overall, basic issue in the USA regarding the current status. The neo nazi culture could thrive without interference, and the could arm themselves btw.

What should we do? Invasion? I will help in every possible way. Education is part of it. And seeing where it went last time is important. Understanding that the status quo is a child’s play compared to what could be coming is important I think. So I try to share this.

But again: what rules?

I am not saying this. I just explained a perspective. What is up with you folks?

Really?

Ok, let’s be 100% clear here. I am offended. Yes. Maybe because my grand grand parents died in (grand grand dad) or afterwards due (grand grand mother) Ausschwitz. They where there as political prisoners because they didn’t share the regimes opinion.

And because this, I fully understand “your” side. I am not offended by the author or any individual.

And I can overcome this feeling, knowing your perspective.

But let’s do a little game: i share an opinion. And opinion that is not yours. And what are you doing? Dismissal and “punishment”. See any correlation? This is a risky game, that for sure must be played, with high stakes. You may feel the need for such edgy content. And you surely need provocative, over the top, content to raise awareness.

Sure, it is offending me, and the initial commentor. But nobody is prohibited to like or share this, and I have no issues with the people they do.

What damn rules? What the hell are you talking about? I just shared a perspective! I explained why some may react in a negative way to this meme.

Please, help me out here: what to you think I have “rules” for exactly?

There are is one single rule, and that is neither by me nor is it relevant for the argument. And that is the the term Holocaust is the name for the exact event that startet 1940 with the mass execution of jews. There will be no “other” or “second” Holocaust. It is a proper noun.

So comparing anything to the Holocaust must happen under this premises.

And I just pointed out, that the meme itself does this comparison, most likely inadvertently. And some Germans may react offended.

That’s all. I don’t day you should not upvote, share, or use this. I just shared a point of view.

So, again, what rules?

Snd you and American people should be! This must be stopped.

I just explained why dome Germans, including me, find this at least tasteless. As mentioned. Perspective. And from your there is nothing wrong, and that is fine. Just don’t expect me (and I am sure neither the artist nor you to this) to applaud.

Yes i know this. Still, luckily, not Ausschwitz and 1940. Still 1935. But the clock is ticking

THE Holocaust is the name for the genocide on the Jewish population. Not a describtion.

Please, read it up.

It is THE Holocaust. There can be no other. It was a genocide of the Jewish people.

And i see you don’t know anything about Ausschwitz.

Let me help out:

Rapist, murders and other career criminals where assigned there as functionaries. They made also overseers (kapos).

Prisoners who arrived there would either be send directly into the gas chamber, or shaved, tattooed with there serial number and had to work to death.

Medical, horrific, experiments where done on the inmates. Who was not longer fit to work would be executed, and this was done from the beginning on.

We are not there (yet). We are still in 1935. And Trump has to be stopped at any cost.

But in my view, these meme is edgy at least, and from my point of view far over the edge.

I have visited readings of Holocaust survivors, we had one coming to our school and telling us about what happened. And believe me, luckily there is time to stop this, before we reach the level of 1940. Not much though

This is the Ausschwitz font. Opened 1940, worst camp ever. That may be why I and my pre commenter find this very edgy.

I see how serious it is, as serious as around 1934, imprisoned without trial, forced to work. I get this.

Using the term “Arbeit macht frei” in the unique style auf the front gate of Ausschwitz, a camp that just opened 1940 l, and the worst camp after all, run by criminals, literally criminals, with conviction and everything, that is simply offensive.

Of course you most likely do not know those details.

Did I question this in any way? No. Will there be over a million be killed in those camps? Hopefully not, we don’t know yet. As I described in another comment: this is about perspective. And most Germans see 1.1 Million murders if they see concentration camp.

I am as concerned as everybody here about what is happening, and I will call Trump and friends neo nazis every single day.

But making a ln Holocaust comparison is something very tabu in Germany. For good reasons

I am not judging the end phase. Or the beginning. I am bringing a different perspective into the discussion.

When we think about concentration camps, we think about 1.1 million murders. We think about horrific conditions. We don’t talk about the earliest prison style camps.

So, if a german tells you that is offensive to him, he has reasons for it. Pn the other side, in the context of the American population, it is edgy but not over the edge.

Perspective is everything