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Well yeah, he was the president.

Former president?

Edit: former presidents can’t drive… It’s a joke folks

Exactly! Just have to deliberately remember 10 is not “AUS!”

Sure can. Even better if a song includes counting to 10, at least for the purposes of this post.

English, Spanish, French, Latin, Russian, German, Japanese, Cantonese, …

So 8. 10 is not very high. I’d have Arabic too, but I can only get to 5 :)

Edit: I can speak 3 of them, 2 passably, English natively. I took 5 of them in school. I had a Rammstein phase. 17 years Karate. And I dated a Hong Kong girl for 6 years and her family liked to play mah-jong but didn’t speak English.

Vocab word of the day.

It’s a great day to be alive in my ass

That’s the way I’ve been doing it since the second kid. But YMMV.

The trick is taking care of your body more like how you take care of your car than how you take care of the ant hills in the cracks of your sidewalk.

Was it?

Hugging face open-r1 and up? It’s an open source deepseek I think.

Let’s not also forget cerebrospinal fluid or the juice in your eyeballs! And of course pus.

Weird non sequitur. Maybe you can bring the fatal crash rate for teens vs failure rate for condoms? There’s no substance here to reply to, and I have covered most of these in other comments in the thread. If you want to show a stat that shows you’re more likely to die as a teen in a fatal car accident than you are to have a pregnancy with a condom, I’m listening.

I made the analogies because I was out and about. Now I’m at a computer, so if you’d like me to be more specific I can.

The gist is a) tell your kids about sex and provide them contraception, b) give your kids everything in a) and ALSO encourage that to happen by co-sleeping them with their significant others, and c) you don’t ever take your eye off your kids and hawk them so they go around you and don’t trust you. I think a) is most sane. The rest of the contributors to the thread think b).

I’m making analogies because to me they are all the same. People will do this thing as teens, and it is a thing that are generally adult things because consequences are high. A) inform them and support them, B) smack them on the ass and turn them loose to do this thing, give them the supply, the coaching, and the location!, C) strictly prohibit the thing so your kids go do it unsafely.

It’s not just a choice between B and C.

I didn’t have kids until my 30s. There’s a lot of stuff to do, and not everyone wants to be a very young parent. That said, I was sexually active at 17, but it was more special occasions than a regular affair.

There’s always a risk of pregnancy and you don’t know what your partner is going to choose, ESPECIALLY if you’re the guy in the relationship. If a mistake happens because you sent your kid to the bedroom and now they have a kid, well, now they’re an adult and out of choices. And now it’s kind of on you. Teenagers can be responsible and smart, but that doesn’t mean they’ve got the same perspective and clarity they have as they get even 5 years older. I support my children and want to be a safe harbor, as I think most people in this thread do, but there’s a good reason not to encourage risky behavior.

??? I had sex and told my parents. They didn’t do me a solid and say “hey, your room is clean, come home and shack up, it’ll be safe and I know you’d like a place to do it”. There’s a difference between prohibiting sex and giving the wink and sending them up to bed. Nobody is saying they gotta hide it, just that you don’t have to turn down the bed either.

You can be a resource to kids and also just not give them whatever they want, even without estranging them.

How is it disingenuous?

Making it safe would be buying condoms for your kids. You don’t have to watch over their shoulder while they watch a movie or whatever other things kids do. Have girlfriend come sleep in your kid’s bed at 17 is absolutely saying “;) go do what teenagers do”. That’s totally different than safe. That’s endorsing a hookup. Next GF same thing? Congrats, it’s a hookup hotel.

Oh sure! Yeah buy the condoms, but the test kits, pick kids up no questions asked from anywhere. The thing about pregnancy is only one person carries a baby and you can’t force the outcome on that person. That includes morning after pills, abortions, adoptions, or anything.

Providing the space IS facilitating though. If you send your kid up to bed with their sig other at 17, you KNOW what is coming. It’s exactly the same as buying a beer for your kid’s party. They can and will find a time, you don’t have to put a mint on the pillow.

Kids that have the presence of mind to ask this question are not raw dogging at the state fair. Getting to that stage is the good parenting part. You can even buy the condoms as a parent if you want. But that doesn’t mean you provide turn down service, mints, and send them up to bed after dinner.

Would you agree that it is still poorly advised to buy them a six pack every time they clean their room?

You don’t have to say “Aw jeez, teen boys only wanna slam. I better make sure he gets all his jollies at home”. Kids will figure out a way, but there’s a lot of room for interpretation between “It’s thursday, bring sally over and get it on,” and “Jimmy got caught with sally under the overpass”.