I believe “complete” is relative in this case. Collapse is a process and not an event, people seem to miss that a lot. I think a lot of the reason why people only see it in retrospect is because they’re all waiting to see some big glorious fire ball. But the truth is, collapse is mostly boring, and then concerning, and then terrifying.

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Buddy, collapse is happening RIGHT NOW. You’re in it. Whatever Mad Max post apocalyptic vision you have? Throw it out. What is happening right now outside your home at this moment, this is what collapse looks like.

They do if you use the right accelerant!

They are happening. There would be a lot less in the underground if it was some thing you heard about. But real work is being done. People being moved for their safety, certain apparatus of the state sustaining sabotage damage, etc. Things are being done.

My last HR rep looked like Ms. Frizzle

Thats a very propertarian view of a non-propertarian issue. You have what you use. What you don’t, you don’t. If you leave your house vacant for too long a period of time, then somebody might take up residence. But if people don’t just move into your home while you’re on vacation now, why would they in a hypothetical system where the concept of property is radically different and presumably everybody has a home? Unless you’re talking about second homes? Because that’s a non starter. Nobody needs more than one home.

Same, dude. Same.