• melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    What a confusing time to be a non-Israeli Jew that supports the Palestinian peoples from Israeli brutality. I guess the same could be said about non-trump americans? Fuck brutality. Peace for all, regardless of political stripes.

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      A lot of parallels between netanyahu and trump, both barely have majority voting support and are starting false wars to delay domestic investigations.

      Millions of Israeli Jews feel the same as you and have been voting against netanyahu.

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    Fun Fact: Every act of genocide ever commited in human history has been done exclusively by conservatives.

    Conservatives are truly, deeply evil. Disown them.

  • Jessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Calling the genocide in Gaza terrorism cheapens the word. What is happening in Gaza is far beyond terrorism. If not for the pictures and video evidence, it would be a natural response to not want to believe something so utterly horrible and depraved to be contemporary.

    I understand the sentiment of the meme though. It’s easy to believe what Israel is doing if righteous, if their victims are not considered human.

    How about the dead Afghani’s? Iraqi’s? They were all terrorists…really??

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    Technically, terrorism is conducted by non-state actors against civilians.

    If a state does it, it is either a crime against humanity or a war crime.

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      As others already pointed out, there isn’t really a unified agreed upon definition of terrorism, but the vast majority those definitions overlap, with small differences between them here and there.

      The probably most important part of those definitions is that the implementation of terror against your opponents has political motivations. War crimes in general on the other hand mostly don’t follow this same philosophy. The only modern day example that theoretically checks both boxes at once is stuff like the Russian terror bombing of civilians (the war crime part), thinking they’ll eventually bomb them into total submission and Russia will achieve their political goals (the terrorism part).

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      “Technically” there is no internationally accepted definition of terrorism.

      It’s basically the first thing everyone learns when they study the subject.

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      That is the legal definition. Laws written and agreed upon by representatives of states. One has to consider that it is defined that way out of self-interest. Charges of terrorism are levied against the enemies of states, which are denied the recognition and privileges of statehood, while charges of war crimes exist only to legitimize states and are levied against the losers of imperialist wars by the victors.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Killing civilians is terrorism.

    It doesn’t matter if your delivery system is a suicide bomber or a drone or a manned aircraft… or (to cite a bonified terror weapon) a railroad gun used to siege cities.

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    Terrorism is the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, to achieve political, religious, or ideological goals.

    Genocide is an international crime defined as specific acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

    What happened in 2001 is in fact terrorism.

    What’s happening in Gaza is in fact genocide.

    Both are bad one is worse. If you can’t figure out which one is the worst one please reevaluate your life choices.

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      Genocide is also terrorism.

      Israel is committing act of genocide which is violent in the goal of extermination palestinians under the belief of the religious, policitical and ideological zionist mouvement

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        I literally just gave the definitions of the two terms. They are ideologically two completely different things.

        Although I will grant that terrorism can turn into genocide.

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          Do you understand that an act can fit two legal definition? I literally showed in my comment why it also fit the act of terrorism

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    You think your being funny, but i’ve lived in Alabama.

    Not a lot of room between southern baptist and al-Qaeda.

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    The top one is political violence. The bottom one is state terrorism.

    The.primary state terrorists today are the US and israel

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    Yeah. The second one is genocide and (often conveniently undeclared) war.

    School shootings and ICE kidnapping innocent civilians are terrorism, though.

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      school shootings generally aren’t about achieving political or other goals

      they’re mass murder; not terrorism

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        Let’s not pretend that the US is magically incapable of independently being vile, lol.

        Israel as a nation state did not exist until 1948. We were committing atrocities well before that.