• JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
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    Back when I was in the Navy we pulled into Phuket once. The way some tourists acted made our destroyer full of debaucherous drunken 20-somethings who hasn’t touched dry land in a couple of months look like alter boys.

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    7 hours ago

    Now that Jeff’s island is gone they are starting to revert to their old ways.

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    8 hours ago

    If I were a third world country, I’d have already restricted access to Israeli citizens until their military conflicts were concluded.

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    I was just at a hotel and there were Israelis who rented Thai military for protection at their wedding. Not police, military.

    If this is necessary then maybe they should look in the mirror as to why. But they never will

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    Wait, you’re telling me Israelis have no respect for local laws and culture? Surprised Pikachu face

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    8 hours ago

    Where is the relevance of this news to anything that’s going? It’s similar to sharing any content where immigrants behave badly and using that as justification that all immigrants are bad.

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      I think you lack context. This behavior goes back a long time (at least until 1998-99 when my wife and I did our backpacking trip around the world).

      Not only are they mostly gungho and rude, they tend to take over entire hostels or hotels, and threaten anyone who asks them not to do karaoke at 3:00 in the morning.

      Many nations have a “type” of traveler: Canadians consistency considered the best, Dutch too stingy, British atavistic, Aussies/Kiwis friendly and fun loving, etc. It’s been like this for literally decades.

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        The one time I was international, unless you count canada, which I never do, the german tourists would just cut in line waiting to see like pyramid ruins in the americas.

        I’ve been told the Israelis are way worse. And read of incidents of them physically beating up people, including locals, over criticism of their country. Of course the US uses it’s influence to get them off, and to crucify the ones the tourists targeted f possible.

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      Same happens here in Brazil. Israeli tourists are usually entitled ex-military genociders, they get a lot of “compensations” after serving their days as Zionist Soldiers that many just take the money and travel around the world, where they more-often-than-not disrespect local laws, customs and people, and many establish themselves in Israeli colonies where they go back to their days of supremacists, for fear of mixing in with the local population. This is happening here in Brazil, and it is disgusting. I wish my government would fucking kick all Israelis reservists out of here, or pursue them for war crimes.

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        You sound exactly like a right winger who trash talks immigrants. You will find stories of misbehaving tourists of any country if you would bother to look for them.

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          It’s one thing to talk down ALL immigrants, it’s another to talk down a specific group that came from a bad situation of their own making, and are importing that bad situation to another country.

          Not all immigrants are bad, but they aren’t all good either.

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          true , but the IDF are literally commiting genocide and making refugees of Palestinians, so there is that

          Just do as Malaysia does and ban Israelis

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            So this IS about antisemitism and conflating behavior of individuals on the entire group.

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            Israelis tourists usually aren’t either. Just because in your bubble only bad examples are shared doesn’t make it true. The same mechanisms radicalizes right wingers into hating immigrants because of the actions of a few.

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                  Lol, and your source for that is the libzio Israeli newspaper Haaretz?

                  Over 50% voted for Trump should we now extend our contempt to all Americans?

                  You said that Israeli Jews are usually not Jewish supremacists. I proved you wrong showing how 98% support continued settler colonialism (right to aliyah) and 79% support Jewish supremacy and exceptionalism on the state level, and now you’re whining about “Not all Jews”. Grow a fucking brain.

                  No wonder you’re German though. Do you condemn Hamas?

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                  Thats not even remotely true.

                  Trump got around 77 million votes out of a population of over 350 million. Thats 273 million people who didn’t vote for him, or 3.5x as many people as who did vote for him.

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      But it’s not immigrants. It’s tourists acting shitty as temporary visitors and that’s very different than populist rhetoric blaming immigrants for taking jobs.

      Not too dissimilar from when people take issue with US tourists (they’re ranked as the worst tourists globally so far).

      Or when people took issue with Chinese tourists not that long ago. You know what the Chinese government did? They educated their own population about having better manners when traveling!

      https://www.thetimes.com/travel/destinations/asia-travel/china/chinese-told-how-to-be-good-tourists-cghdjjrvbbv

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        Some other commentators have already confirmed that it’s about the bad actions of the Israeli government, not really about the individual tourists. The same type of argument is being made by the far right about Palestinians and Hamas. Both arguments won’t lead to peace just to further resentment.

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          Yeah, its a little too easy to frame every single tourist by their nationality, but there is truth in these comments. It’s not so much about tourism either, its about the general mentality of certain groups of people towards other peoples and cultures.

          And its not like it is at all suprising that people visiting from countries that actively promote ethnic nationalism (Russia, China, Israel) generally tend to act rude and condescending towards ‘lesser’ peoples and cultures.

        • Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca
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          Hey maroon, you first commented on the article. The article mentions tourists. Quit playing pussyfoot as if you didn’t start this whole charade with some veiled claim of antisemitism.

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          There are 17 comments on here, there’s maybe one person who said that apart from you, so no, other commentators have not confirmed this.

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            This person also “confirmed” above that anyone speaking negatively about tourists from Israel is being “antisemetic” too. Just your typical propaganda pusher.

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              True, but I live in a German speaking area, so I’m used to that and tend to just ignore the silly accusation and insist on just the argument itself.

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                There is legitimate criticism of the Israeli government and their war and their is demonization of all Jews / all Israelis

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                So this IS about antisemitism and conflating behavior of individuals on the entire group.

                Yes you did. One’s nationality has nothing to do with their religion and discriminating against people from a certain nation, especially current and e former military members engaging in genocide has absolutely nothing to do with religious discrimination. Go peddle your nonsense on Facebook. I’m sure it’ll get more traction there.