Exploitation of a nation for labour and resources. You know, like America invading Iraq and Afghanistan for oil and heroin, or America invading Korea so they could get cheap sweatshop labour, or Europe invading Africa for everything and everyone that wasn’t nailed down.
Yeah I’d call those all imperialism as well. There’s a distinct theme of economic expansion - and that certainly doesn’t describe every war I know about
I can’t help but feel you are actually engaging in bad faith when you’ve commented twice that you definitely know other wars but don’t mention what they are.
You say it like I’m some capitalist pig that doesn’t agree with all of the above. I don’t get why Russia gets a pass though, they mucked about in Africa, Asia and Latin America in their past too. They are still in Africa from what I understand and it’s hard to pretend they aren’t in Ukraine specifically for ressources.
Russia doesn’t get a pass for it’s actual imperialism, but Russia’s other actions doesn’t make this action imperialist.
It’s hard to pretend they are in Ukraine for resources, Ukraine was having a full blown civil war over the banning of speaking russian. I know we’re used to standing idly by and shrugging our shoulders when someone’s attempting genocide, but saying Russia is there for resources is just pretending history started in 2022.
You are actually joking, right? How do you defend against succession? They’re trying to leave and you’re stopping them.
You defend against a violent seccession supplied by Russia. There was no democratic process. Or are you arguing countries aren’t allowed to defend their terrotorial integrity?
And as for the natural gas, I am talking about gas reserves that have been newly discovered in the past 20 years. They haven’t been developed yet, so they obviously don’t factor into how much Ukraine is producing now. Why do you think the Orange man was so adamant about having rights to those reserves?
So maybe you’re the one that needs to read up on geo politics, because you clearly don’t.
The only one moving further from reality is you on your mission to bootlick russian fascists.
Exploitation of a nation for labour and resources. You know, like America invading Iraq and Afghanistan for oil and heroin, or America invading Korea so they could get cheap sweatshop labour, or Europe invading Africa for everything and everyone that wasn’t nailed down.
Yeah I’d call those all imperialism as well. There’s a distinct theme of economic expansion - and that certainly doesn’t describe every war I know about
I can’t help but feel you are actually engaging in bad faith when you’ve commented twice that you definitely know other wars but don’t mention what they are.
If you think I’m trolling or whatever, you’re free to bow out of the conversation. I was just trying to be succinct and avoid writing walls of text.
You say it like I’m some capitalist pig that doesn’t agree with all of the above. I don’t get why Russia gets a pass though, they mucked about in Africa, Asia and Latin America in their past too. They are still in Africa from what I understand and it’s hard to pretend they aren’t in Ukraine specifically for ressources.
Russia doesn’t get a pass for it’s actual imperialism, but Russia’s other actions doesn’t make this action imperialist.
It’s hard to pretend they are in Ukraine for resources, Ukraine was having a full blown civil war over the banning of speaking russian. I know we’re used to standing idly by and shrugging our shoulders when someone’s attempting genocide, but saying Russia is there for resources is just pretending history started in 2022.
Are you honestly saying Ukraines defence against a violent seccession, possible only do to Russian instigation, is attempted genocide?
And of course Ukraines eastern natural gas reserves are one of the reasons for the invasion, thinking otherwise is just naive.
You are actually joking, right? How do you defend against succession? They’re trying to leave and you’re stopping them.
The whole of Ukraine produces a fraction of the natural gas Russia does. They’ve not reorganised their entire economy for a 5% increase in production.
You’re moving further and further from reality as you try to vibe your way through politics. Read any sort of theory for once.
You defend against a violent seccession supplied by Russia. There was no democratic process. Or are you arguing countries aren’t allowed to defend their terrotorial integrity?
And as for the natural gas, I am talking about gas reserves that have been newly discovered in the past 20 years. They haven’t been developed yet, so they obviously don’t factor into how much Ukraine is producing now. Why do you think the Orange man was so adamant about having rights to those reserves?
So maybe you’re the one that needs to read up on geo politics, because you clearly don’t.
The only one moving further from reality is you on your mission to bootlick russian fascists.
So you agree that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is imperialist?
Because it’s exactly that.