Remember when Jesus freed the slaves of Jerusalem? What a badass section of the Bible
Oh wait no that never happened. In fact, Jesus never even spoke negatively about slavery.
Bummer.
But sure, I guess other than completely ignoring the concept of owning a person in the same way you own oxen, he really wanted everyone to care about one another.
That’s because slavery in that culture was not what we think of when we think of slavery today. There are numerous passages throughout the Old and New Testaments detailing how slaves were to be treated with the utmost respect, which was otherwise unheard of in antiquity. To give just one example:
If your brother, a Hebrew man or a Hebrew woman, is sold[a] to you, he shall serve you six years, and in the seventh year you shall let him go free from you. And when you let him go free from you, you shall not let him go empty-handed. You shall furnish him liberally out of your flock, out of your threshing floor, and out of your winepress. As the Lord your God has blessed you, you shall give to him. You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God redeemed you; therefore I command you this today. But if he says to you, ‘I will not go out from you,’ because he loves you and your household, since he is well-off with you, then you shall take an awl, and put it through his ear into the door, and he shall be your slave[b] forever. And to your female slave[c] you shall do the same. It shall not seem hard to you when you let him go free from you, for at half the cost of a hired worker he has served you six years. So the Lord your God will bless you in all that you do.
– Deuteronomy 15:12-18
[a]: Or sells himself
[b,c]: Or servent. The Hebrew term ébed is used to describe a wide range of socioeconomic roles. (The Greek word doulos in the New Testament is similar, as in Colossians 4:1.)
God wanted them to be treated as family. It was basically a structured mutual aid partnership.
Oh I’m sorry is that quote supposed to make slavery seem ok?
Guys it’s not a big deal because the Bible had rules about buying and selling humans for labor and profit.
Treated like family
Except you skipped Exodus 21:20
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Fuck right off with this “slaves were meant to be treated like family” revisionist bullshit
I’m sure you need to tell yourself that to feel ok about your hateful, awful, vacuous religion, but it’s insultingy ahistorical.
Even your own fucking book doesn’t agree
Does your family also have a clause where if they get pregnant, you get to own and enslave the offspring? Wow super family like, guys (see edit below for text of Leviticus 25:44-55)
Your reply frankly disgusts me.
Without research… Sure you want to go there bud? Sure you don’t want your disgusting beliefs strewn about this public forum for all to see?
I bet I know more about it than you do. The thing is, I’m also familiar with (like actual, real) history so I’m aware of what slavery actually was like in those times. Not through the mouth of a lying, destructive, bigoted book. But you have no interest in that do you?
Time to go back to your pastor with some questions, big guy.
Edit:
Here’s the verse to backup the clause I mentioned above:
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. 45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.
Leviticus 25:44-55
Fucking gross. “Don’t treat one another ruthlessly, however, you are allowed to rape your slaves and then own their children”
Oh now hold on, the verses you quoted were missing some context. Let me add some:
3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.
Exodus 21:3
So you can rape your slaves and then own the offspring. Why would you choose to leave that part out and then call me uneducated?
And as the other comment said, this is specifically about Hebrew slaves. Which is interesting since the other verse I posted seemed pretty clear about picking up slaves in conquered lands (fucking ew).
So not only is it evil and gross, but there is a double standard.
But that said you’re still allowed to rape them and enslave their kids, so Yahweh truly is fair.
Edit: I just saw the part about how the relationship between a slave and their owner was like a mutual aid relationship. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
Remember when Jesus freed the slaves of Jerusalem? What a badass section of the Bible
Oh wait no that never happened. In fact, Jesus never even spoke negatively about slavery.
Bummer.
But sure, I guess other than completely ignoring the concept of owning a person in the same way you own oxen, he really wanted everyone to care about one another.
Jesus’ dad was pretty adamant He owned everyone.
Yeah. Committed a whole fucking lot of genocide too.
And the reason? Petty fucking jealousy. From a supposedly all powerful god.
Leslie’s auntie’s sister’s daughter was very clear
Where is a nunnery when needed?
That’s because slavery in that culture was not what we think of when we think of slavery today. There are numerous passages throughout the Old and New Testaments detailing how slaves were to be treated with the utmost respect, which was otherwise unheard of in antiquity. To give just one example:
– Deuteronomy 15:12-18
[a]: Or sells himself
[b,c]: Or servent. The Hebrew term ébed is used to describe a wide range of socioeconomic roles. (The Greek word doulos in the New Testament is similar, as in Colossians 4:1.)
God wanted them to be treated as family. It was basically a structured mutual aid partnership.
Criticism without research doesn’t mean much.
also note, these the rules are for hebrew slaves
Oh yeah that’s right. Different rules for Hebrew slaves.
Oh I’m sorry is that quote supposed to make slavery seem ok?
Guys it’s not a big deal because the Bible had rules about buying and selling humans for labor and profit.
Except you skipped Exodus 21:20
Fuck right off with this “slaves were meant to be treated like family” revisionist bullshit
I’m sure you need to tell yourself that to feel ok about your hateful, awful, vacuous religion, but it’s insultingy ahistorical.
Even your own fucking book doesn’t agree
Does your family also have a clause where if they get pregnant, you get to own and enslave the offspring? Wow super family like, guys (see edit below for text of Leviticus 25:44-55)
Your reply frankly disgusts me.
Without research… Sure you want to go there bud? Sure you don’t want your disgusting beliefs strewn about this public forum for all to see?
I bet I know more about it than you do. The thing is, I’m also familiar with (like actual, real) history so I’m aware of what slavery actually was like in those times. Not through the mouth of a lying, destructive, bigoted book. But you have no interest in that do you?
Time to go back to your pastor with some questions, big guy.
Edit:
Here’s the verse to backup the clause I mentioned above:
Leviticus 25:44-55
Fucking gross. “Don’t treat one another ruthlessly, however, you are allowed to rape your slaves and then own their children”
Oh now hold on, the verses you quoted were missing some context. Let me add some:
Exodus 21:3
So you can rape your slaves and then own the offspring. Why would you choose to leave that part out and then call me uneducated?
And as the other comment said, this is specifically about Hebrew slaves. Which is interesting since the other verse I posted seemed pretty clear about picking up slaves in conquered lands (fucking ew).
So not only is it evil and gross, but there is a double standard.
But that said you’re still allowed to rape them and enslave their kids, so Yahweh truly is fair.
Edit: I just saw the part about how the relationship between a slave and their owner was like a mutual aid relationship. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.