There’s often a skill that seem interesting, but I can’t see doing anything for me in my day-to-day life. What have you learned that was a lot more effort than the payoff was worth?

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      In France, children learn only cursive. It’s kind of strange to learn how to manually write like a typewriter…

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        I think it’s a matter of how it’s framed.

        It was already going out of fashion in schools when I was growing up, and people did not like it when a teacher (usually older) made them practice it. The original argument of it being faster didn’t apply once computers became common in schools/homes, and printed letters (writing like a typewriter) are better for clarity.

        However, I think there is value to it when framed as an artistic skill. Calligraphy strengthens motor skills, and if you make the lesson less rigid then kids can have fun with it and figure out how to express themselves.

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          I don’t understand it, to be honest. It may be cultural. To learn two ways to handwrite is a waste of time, agreed, but why choose the one which was not thought to be handwritten?

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      Hard disagree.

      There’s some debate to have here about neuroplasticity and whether cursive handwriting (or the process of learning something involving both the cognitive resources and some rather fine hand, wrist, fingers, a bit of an arm movement), but one thing is certain: it’s a faster way to write stuff down.

      I have tried journaling and other writing both in printed and cursive, and the former makes me not write at all, because there’s not enough time in this world for me to be my verbose self on paper when trying to write legible printed letters.

      Cursive is just that fast. Faster if you learn to write shorter forms of the same words. Even faster if you learn some special systems, but that’s a different rabbit hole.

      But I will admit that learning to be concise with one’s words without losing meaning and gravity is also beneficial, even if only for trying to push Alzheimer’s and others further into the future.

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        Cursive is faster (and more comfortable) than printing.

        But that assumes that you’re handwriting in the first place.

        Typing is faster than cursive, and many people who work a lot with text can just type any substantial amounts of text that they want to write.

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          It’s faster but harder to read. Maybe that’s arguable with some people’s handwriting. But with many people their cursive is harder to read, and it’s definitely so with my shitty penmanship.

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        I do get what you’re saying, but most people nowadays just type rather than write.

        When I write, I mostly write in print, but I actually seem to have a bid of hybrid cursive going on in there.

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        I agree that cursive is faster for note taking and keeping up, but I retain the knowledge better when I print. I think slowing down is helpful in processing the information. Any writing is better for retention than typing though.

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      Connected cursive with the stupid squiggles is terrible, regular cursive where you just join most of the letters is the fastest way to write.

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        How much cursive you using these days? It’s pretty much useless outside of reading old letters.

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          Taking notes in interviews (job related). Allows me to scribble something down while maintaining eye contact and seeing the persons face. Does it well because i dont need to wonder how much space is in between characters like i do when hand printing.

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          I have excellent handwriting and it has been a valuable asset at almost every job I’ve ever had. So many times people have come to me and asked me to hand write a note to a client.

          Also, love letters. Physical love letters written in cursive go fucking hard in the 2020’s.

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          Every day, it is how I write. It is not useless if you want to write with a minimal degree of fluency.

          Don’t you write at all?