• ZMoney@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I’m not going off of all of these hypotheticals. The evidence I’m pointing to is a thousand casualties per day. People in the West can sanction and wishcast about oligarchs all they want and meanwhile these lives are being erased. Imagine living in Ukraine and hearing this. “Just keep dying, and eventually something might happen.” It’s absurd.

    Do you have any solution that produces a result in a quantifiable amount of time?

    I never suggested that Russia was trustworthy, just that temporary peace is better than whatever this is.

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      4 days ago

      Do you have any solution that produces a result in a quantifiable amount of time?

      I’m going to set aside the fact that it is impossible to guarantee a timeframe on anything, and assume you meant “realistic suggestions to end the war”.

      But, oh you won’t like my suggestions one little bit and we have proof from the thread to date you won’t actually engage with them, you’ll just dismiss them.

      So, the minimal effort response is - Russia has already been ground to a halt - they’ve not been advancing in any significant way for at least 2months. What makes you think Russia can win from here ? They can’t get fuel into Crimea where they’ve been staging attacks from, they can’t get supplies into their troops on the frontline in many areas, and on the home front there’s plenty of footage of farmers going broke for various reasons and not being able to produce. Famines are always great for home-front morale so that contributes to one of the options you ignored. Troops without supplies and ammo can’t fight and will have to withdraw that contributes to another.

      TL;DR more money and supplies to Ukraine, much more than we are currently supplying. They’re doing a great job of making it difficult for Russia to continue.

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        4 days ago

        Nope despite your hostility I’m really only here because I’m trying to find answers. So am I correct that your hypothesis is that Russia will stop fighting if we just continue with aid, sanctions, and air war? If so, I’m asking how long this will take because of the casualty rate that everyone here seems to ignore.