You’re conflating things that aren’t related. if they do shit work, criticize the shit work. This is obviously rallying a witch hunt based on the tool used. You could as easily say in 1996 that Toy Story is shit and if they cared they would have bothered to hand draw all their work. it’s just a different way of making visual content, as is all the virtual content you see in any game, the textures, polygons, fake lighting, etc. all generated by a computer at the direction of a human.
eta: I’m not gonna argue with all of lemmy about this, just want to add: I wish these devs would actually just be honest, also. They keep going “I don’t know how this happened!” but obviously it happened because it was useful to the process of making games. just own up to it.
But it is related. Because they keep using AI and it keeps turning into low quality shit. Toy Story took effort and imagination and skill to animate, and at the end, it looked incredible. When I was a kid and Toy Story came out, I wasn’t looking at it and saying “how lazy these animators are to not draw this” I was saying “I’ve never seen anything like this before!”. They took the tools they invented and played into its strengths. It made plasticy lifeless unreal looking humans, so they made the main characters toys. Toy Story is actually the perfect counter example to this AI bullshit, because it was obviously made with skill and love, and AI use keeps showing us it is a lazy shortcut to shitty work.
you’re making good points, so please don’t see what I’m saying as needlessly confrontational. What I’m saying is that this happens to any game that uses it in any way whatsoever, so it can’t just be about quality, it moves into ideology.
Understand that’s what you’re saying. Ai is not a tool in the same sense as 3d art compared to hand drawn animation. There is no control on output and there is no care, because nobody is doing anything, they’re just taking an image spit out by a machine that outputs an amalgamation of others works. On top of ethical issues regarding stolen work and environmental destruction caused by ai. Asking others to turn off their brains and not think about what tool is being used to create these images is embarrassing
You’re conflating things that aren’t related. if they do shit work, criticize the shit work. This is obviously rallying a witch hunt based on the tool used. You could as easily say in 1996 that Toy Story is shit and if they cared they would have bothered to hand draw all their work. it’s just a different way of making visual content, as is all the virtual content you see in any game, the textures, polygons, fake lighting, etc. all generated by a computer at the direction of a human.
eta: I’m not gonna argue with all of lemmy about this, just want to add: I wish these devs would actually just be honest, also. They keep going “I don’t know how this happened!” but obviously it happened because it was useful to the process of making games. just own up to it.
But it is related. Because they keep using AI and it keeps turning into low quality shit. Toy Story took effort and imagination and skill to animate, and at the end, it looked incredible. When I was a kid and Toy Story came out, I wasn’t looking at it and saying “how lazy these animators are to not draw this” I was saying “I’ve never seen anything like this before!”. They took the tools they invented and played into its strengths. It made plasticy lifeless unreal looking humans, so they made the main characters toys. Toy Story is actually the perfect counter example to this AI bullshit, because it was obviously made with skill and love, and AI use keeps showing us it is a lazy shortcut to shitty work.
you’re making good points, so please don’t see what I’m saying as needlessly confrontational. What I’m saying is that this happens to any game that uses it in any way whatsoever, so it can’t just be about quality, it moves into ideology.
“Please don’t use your brain and accept garbage, I just want garbage”
Great argument bud.
Understand that’s what you’re saying. Ai is not a tool in the same sense as 3d art compared to hand drawn animation. There is no control on output and there is no care, because nobody is doing anything, they’re just taking an image spit out by a machine that outputs an amalgamation of others works. On top of ethical issues regarding stolen work and environmental destruction caused by ai. Asking others to turn off their brains and not think about what tool is being used to create these images is embarrassing