Well I make 15k and I feel poor. If I made 4-5x that I would no longer feel poor and could comfortably support not just myself but also theoretically my partner and a kid or two if I wanted to.
But I still agree with everything you’re saying. We’re all getting sucked dry by the system and forced to toil our lives away for asshats like the guy in the Post who happen to own our workplace. The exploitation does not vanish with higher wages. And of course the costs of healthcare and education in the USA are way higher than where I live
This is exactly what is expected to happen. People complaining/arguing but not complaining/arguing about the correct issue.
70k by everyone’s standards other than the top 1% is a lot of money, because we have always had to focus on surviving and can make that amount work. Life isnt going to be roses, but it will be life. It really does come down to buying power, but also priority. Back in the 70/80s buying tech (tvs, computers) was insanely expensive. Now you can pick up a 65in for like 200usd. Back in the 90s a new car was under 10k. Now a decent car bought new is 35/40k. Housing…I am not even going to touch it. I bought a 5 bedroom 2400sq ft for 89k in PA in the early 2000s, now that house on zillow is 350k. I only had it a year and I sold it for 85k after closing and everything. Prices for things have flipped for a lot of items that used to be luxury compared to necessity. That’s how we can afford avocado toast because we can only afford eggs/bread/ and a single avocado.
I dont want to start a 2nd argument, and I am not confident I am getting my point across. I just feel all that are here arguing should not be arguing amongst ourselves since we are essentially in the same boat amd should be putting our efforts at the real issue.
Yes I agree with you as well. All I wanted to express with my original comment was that the statement of the guy in the original post is made even more insulting by the fact that 70k is actually a lot of money for many many people. What I was not trying to say is that people making a 70k wage are part of the bourgeoisie or something. If you make that much money good for you, you’re still getting exploited by your boss though. Maybe it’s on me for not articulating what I wanted to well enough and starting this argument
Well I make 15k and I feel poor. If I made 4-5x that I would no longer feel poor and could comfortably support not just myself but also theoretically my partner and a kid or two if I wanted to.
But I still agree with everything you’re saying. We’re all getting sucked dry by the system and forced to toil our lives away for asshats like the guy in the Post who happen to own our workplace. The exploitation does not vanish with higher wages. And of course the costs of healthcare and education in the USA are way higher than where I live
This is exactly what is expected to happen. People complaining/arguing but not complaining/arguing about the correct issue.
70k by everyone’s standards other than the top 1% is a lot of money, because we have always had to focus on surviving and can make that amount work. Life isnt going to be roses, but it will be life. It really does come down to buying power, but also priority. Back in the 70/80s buying tech (tvs, computers) was insanely expensive. Now you can pick up a 65in for like 200usd. Back in the 90s a new car was under 10k. Now a decent car bought new is 35/40k. Housing…I am not even going to touch it. I bought a 5 bedroom 2400sq ft for 89k in PA in the early 2000s, now that house on zillow is 350k. I only had it a year and I sold it for 85k after closing and everything. Prices for things have flipped for a lot of items that used to be luxury compared to necessity. That’s how we can afford avocado toast because we can only afford eggs/bread/ and a single avocado.
I dont want to start a 2nd argument, and I am not confident I am getting my point across. I just feel all that are here arguing should not be arguing amongst ourselves since we are essentially in the same boat amd should be putting our efforts at the real issue.
Yes I agree with you as well. All I wanted to express with my original comment was that the statement of the guy in the original post is made even more insulting by the fact that 70k is actually a lot of money for many many people. What I was not trying to say is that people making a 70k wage are part of the bourgeoisie or something. If you make that much money good for you, you’re still getting exploited by your boss though. Maybe it’s on me for not articulating what I wanted to well enough and starting this argument