Ive thought about torrents but they require a paid vpn from what i know? I dont really want to pay, which is why im thinking about piracy because im not made of money and cant afford a vpn. Im just not sure if its possible to be safe and sail the seven seas all for free?
What would you advise i do? what did you do when starting out?
Well first off, torrenting doesn’t “require” a VPN, you may want to look up your area etc… in most of the united states, basically if you torrent without a VPN, there’s a chance that your ISP will detect it and typically they will send you a letter saying “we know you downloaded _____ illegally, if we catch you again, we will cancel your service”.
which depending on what you are going for (like say new releases and big name targets are what they will be watching for the most)… that could take years to even happen.
Now as far as safe, and lower risk… you could always look up pirating on the IRC… it’s not the most user friendly route out there, but that’s kind of the point, it’s ancient technology and for the most part no one bothers to monitor it.
and then of course there’s just tons of bootleg streaming sites. bottom line anything that’s not peer 2 peer, is pretty much impossible for ISPs to identify what you are doing on… and thus are pretty safe.
ISP will detect it and typically they will send you a letter saying “we know you downloaded _____ illegally, if we catch you again, we will cancel your service”.
It’s actually the studios that own the content you are torrenting that will seed the torrent and then collect a list of all IP addresses that connect to them, then they ask your ISP to shut your internet off.
You ISP doesn’t actually care if you torrent, because if they cancel your internet they lose out on money.
True, I guess the process is the studios have deals/threats to sue the ISPs if they don’t do it.
Either way regardless of their reason or motives. The ISP is the one that’s in charge of sending the threat and dealing the punishment, and again the key point is (again region may vary, do research on your ISP), but typically they send a warning first. So in short, if you just want to get started quickly, you can just start torrenting with no VPN (you should probably seed things for as little time as possible), and hope you can afford a VPN before you get the threatening letter, if you do get the threatening letter… then stop all peer 2 peer based piracy until you can afford to do it safer.
Unless your ISP is a content owner, which several are now. Comcast/Xfinity is NBC for example. Plus Comcast makes a lot of profit on cable TV, so they have reason to ger people to stop. That being said, I dont know anyone who was simply downloading for personal use who got their service canceled. But it is a major risk in the IS since most ISPs have near monopolies at least over broadband speeds, so the majority have no other options.
There is also Usenet, access is cheap but not free.
Substantially more pricey than a vpn
So much pricier that when you take a Usenet subscription they’ll often add a free vpn on top, as a treat
Buy usenet around black friday, super cheap. I currently pay $18/yr for usenet, any useful VPN is way more expensive.
Seems like a lot of people replying need to work on their reading comprehension…
Use private trackers only. Public trackers are way easier to identify you on.
Disable DHT, PeX and Local Peer Discovery in your BitTorrent client. This will prevent you connecting to random public peers.
If you’re just interested in movies/TV I recommend streaming sites with an adblocker. Just so much easier and safe enough. Find sites on fmhy.netUse private trackers only. Public trackers are way easier to identify you on.
Source on that? This is the first I’ve heard of it
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Lemmy.ml account and making a snarky, nonsense comment. Name a more iconic duo.
I2p
qBitTorrent in I2P only mode is free and safe.
It’s slow and limited selection, but there’s good stuff.
last i tried the trackers were dogwater. Waste of time unless you’re looking for 3yo items.
There’s plenty of new stuff on Postmaster, especially if it’s big-budget or sci-fi leaning. But you’re right, it can be difficult to find some media, especially if it’s niche. For free, there’s more being posted than can reasonably be watched or listened to.
ITT buncha folks with no reading comprehension, free != pay little.
if ISP/government are looking for folks doing the thing, get a torrent client for your laptop/phone, send links to it, and then seek out some free wifi, like a coffee shop or sumsuch. loiter about, limit download speeds so they don’t ban your freeloading ass and there you go - adventure, fresh air, you don’t gotta download “watch dogs”, you’re living the game!
Also MAC address spoofing. Use it when using public connections, makes it so they can’t track your device easily or ban the device from the networks. It should go without saying to use this but people don’t talk about this, and I think certain people would rather people not know about it at all.
Unfortunately any unencrypted file sharing, or really any unencrypted internet usage at all, carries some risk of ISPs or governments snooping on what you are doing. BitTorrent is just particularly notable because of its history and that by the nature of the protocol, you are uploading (seeding) in addition to downloading.
A good VPN is a few bucks a month and provides a lot of other benefits. It’s worth considering.
Find someone in your circle of friends who can give you an invite to a private tracker or use usenet. Also vpns arent necessarily “required”. It will depend on your area and your download setup.
usenet
Doesn’t that require a minimum of two paid services?
Depends on your location, your isp, and how patient you can be. There are free providers and indexers.
You can also find private torrent sites with temporary open registration on opentrackers (mostly new ones but not only). There you can find invite forums (so mind your stats).
There are communities for gaining entry into these, I don’t know what they are off the top of my head but they exist and I’ve successfully used them
You could use a free VPN like Proton if you’re worried about getting caught. You can also use DNS over https to hide what sites you’re visiting from being visible, and you might not even need a VPN depending on your area, as others have mentioned. I’ve pirated so much stuff for years and never gotten any angry letters.
You could use a free VPN like Proton if you’re worried about getting caught.
Proton’s free plan does not support P2P.
I thought it just doesn’t support port forwarding, and only one side of a torrent connection needs to have it
No, proton free blocks torrent use
How do they block it exactly? Do they block it the way most public Wifi does, or do they go an extra step and attempt to block trackers? If it’s the former it’s possible to bypass it, but it will limit how fast or good the torrenting experience will be.
In most country you don’t risk anything by just visiting the site. But just so you know, while DoH or DoT are very good things for privacy, it’s not enough to prevent your ISP form seeing the site you visit. They can still see the SNI unless the site has setup ECH but it’s very rare.
fmhy has a beginners guide, there’s lots of options that don’t require torrenting
for torrenting specifically, I’ve been using cloudflare’s vpn (1.1.1.1) without issues, though it requires a bit of setup with wireguard
Mooch off someone else’s paid VPN.
yt-dlp and a streaming site
I use this one so I don’t have to keep track of sites that go down:
Better to use fmhy, gives backup websites as well.
You can pirate over IRC XCDD. Without VPN the IRC server, other people on the server as well as the servers you are downloading from know your IP but it’s significantly less exposure than torrents since you aren’t seeding anything.
direct downloads and JDownloader2, but your mileage will vary with availability
What I did, what I do and why I do it
At the beginning of the 2000’s, piracy either wasn’t as prevalent as it is today or it wasn’t as persecuted, or a combination thereof. Which is to say, I started with DC++, Kazaa and direct downloads. No security or privacy measures. This is also when I proudly downloaded the first Pokémon movie Pokémon: The First Movie (1998), sat down with my parents to watch it and then immediately having to explain to them why Pokémon are having sex. Suffice it to say, it was some Pokémon themed hentai.
As my understanding of computers, networking and capitalism evolved - this being around the early 2010’s - and especially as I had learned about the improved, albeit not perfect, anonymity of torrenting in a society with otherwise increasingly oppressive demeanor towards online integrity and piracy -, I decided to only pirate using torrent clients thenceforth. I also took a brief pause from piracy for about six years, as I moved to a jurisdiction whose laws and attitude towards privacy were not known to me. I was doing my Master’s degree and thus couldn’t spare the time and effort it would’ve taken to safely engage in piracy.
As we arrive to present day - present time (any fans here?) -, nation states’ attitude towards piracy - or, rather the lobbyists’ relentless pursuit to reap legal fees - but really just the overall cyber climate with all the data brokers indiscriminately collecting, profiling and selling our data to the highest bidder, I simply don’t dare to be on the clearnet/internet without using a VPN, an adblocker and DNS/hosts file based filtering anymore. I would argue that the risks to the integrity of the individual is great enough to warrant these countermeasures regardless of jurisdiction, but I digress. Sure, if your jurisdiction does not criminalize piracy, be my guest, torrent without a VPN.
My current setup
- VPN: Mullvad VPN, €5 per month https://mullvad.net/en/pricing
- Adblocker (in browser): uBlock Origin https://ublockorigin.com/
- DNS: Mullvad (comes “automatically” with the above services)
- Torrent client: qBittorrent https://www.qbittorrent.org/
A few notes on Mullvad:
- I am using Mullvad VPN on a router so that all my traffic is encrypted, but their desktop app is also good - better in regards to customizability -, just make sure to bind your torrent client to the network interface created by the VPN app.
- You cannot make applications reachable from the internet (aka forward ports) with Mullvad. You can still download, but you are a passive seeder, only reachable by peers that do have port forwarding enabled. (Note: a great majority of the bigger seeders/public seeding groups use so called seeding boxes whose ports are forwarded and I seed in average 8TBs per month with steady share ratios of around 8.0, so don’t let this discourage you, unless maximizing your seeding contributions is what is most important to you.)
Paying nothing
As others have already pointed out, double check what laws apply in your specific jurisdiction before pirating unprotected. I haven’t tried it myself, except for running two of their routers to contribute bandwidth, but file sharing in the closed network i2p is supposedly popular. However, I can neither confirm nor deny this and it is a somewhat more technical approach. All your traffic is encrypted many times over and what you do inside i2p is not visible from the clearnet. https://geti2p.net/en/
Rotf. I ALWAYS play the videos before and skip around a bit to make sure it is what it should before i show the fam. Did you atleast watch it with them after you explained the pidgys and the beedrills to them?
XD
All they knew is I’m playing a game boy game called Pokémon and that this is a movie of that game. So… XD
Check out Tribler. Its based on similar tech as the Tor network and allows for anonymous downloads and uploads. IRC is still a pretty decent option too, if a bit of work.
Mullvad will coat you 5 bucks a year. If you don’t pay for it, you’re the product.
A month… but still valid tho. You can even send them a letter with cash in it and they’ll charge your account
