This is a well-known poster, but feels more relevant recently.

  • optissima (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    Whataboutism, and no, this is an international scale. I don’t know if what you claim is the case in Russia, but the more apt analogy for that would be the American South.

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      20 days ago

      So because Russian colonies still aren’t independent, it isn’t international? You’re technically right, there is no national boarder in between.

      It isn’t whataboutism to point out when one imperial power shits on another one for being imperial. If anything, the Soviet poster is whataboutism. And I upvoted the post because I agree with it, just wanted to give more context.

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        20 days ago

        Whataboutism: The act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse

        Straight from the dictionary

        I even went as far as to entertain your analogy and give a more accurate equivalent. This article might be a good starting place to learn why, when the USSR chose to dissolve, Siberia didn’t become it’s own republic (I do agree it’s kind of odd).

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      20 days ago

      Pwease don’t me a meanie weanie about the Wussians who never did anything wrong and certainly never engaged in any naughty impeweawism.

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          I’m fine. But criticising American imperialism with literal Soviet propaganda makes you sound like a child

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            20 days ago

            Wait, what propaganda? I think we all agree that Siberia is under direct governmental control of the Kremlin and not a sovereign state, no?

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              20 days ago

              The original post is a piece of soviet propaganda.

              Tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union and the modern Russian Republic were/are imperialist powers who conquered and/or exerted economic, political and military power over their neighbours for the purposes of resource exploitation in exactly the same way every other imperial power has done throughout history, including the United States. Russia is currently engaged in a war of foreign aggression over resources.

              Denying Russian (or Chinese) imperialism while denouncing US (or British, or European) imperialism is childishly naive.

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                19 days ago

                I feel silly for missing the Russian text on the page the entire time 💀 I thought it was english bitcrushed enough that I couldn’t read it. It’s absolutely a USSR propaganda, it is still so relevant to this past week I didn’t consider it could be older. Yes, imperialism is a problem and needs to be stopped, but I am focused on what has been driving the world into empires for the last 200 years, capital. It inherently promotes exploitation and corruption regardless of government, and allows those who have it to exist above governments that become dependent on it.