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    It’s worth pointing out that this type of international policy falls completely in line with Wilhout’s definition of conservatism:

    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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      They wont. America is the worst country for being all talk zero action. They’d rather let the entire world get annihilated than do anything actually meaningful to improve their lives and the lives of the people who they share a planet with.

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        Watch them all down vote these comments because they can’t face the truth.

        The fact is that without violent revolution they will never be a democracy again. When Biden won in 2020 the GOP in each state government they controlled made sure that their voting districts all favored Republicans and made voting difficult for anyone who wasn’t white, straight and Christian, resulting in orange Hitler returning to power in 2024. There is no possible way for them to vote or peacefully protest their way out of fascism.

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          “It’s not my fault, I voted for Harris!” Your votes dont mean shit and you have to either stop being cowards and do the work that needs to be done or at the very fucking least accept that when other countries are criticizing the American citizens for the things their country does, they are ALSO talking about you. Not just the MAGA people.

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            As an American… I think most people here are extremely out of touch with what reality actually is. People here have enough privilege to not even see reality. It’s like people are very sheltered. Or at least it seems that way. Truth and reality don’t seem to be accepted here. Like it’s taboo. It’s like we aren’t supposed to know.

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              Is it really that? Because I’ve been to the states quite a few times and some of the places I’ve seen are far worse for standards of living than even the sketchiest neighbourhoods in my country. And it sounds like its about to get a lot harder to afford things like health insurance real fast for you guys. Like wtf is the breaking point there exactly?

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              Its not the privileged that piss me off so much as the down and out still fighting tooth and nail against any change. I can under stand the well off that have homes and a retirement plan that goes beyond a single bullet and a note. But the people barely making ends meet, or not making them meet at all tend to blame it all on “the other guys team” and just keep supporting the same system slowly crushing them.

              And the wild part to me is we are not talking about some sort of socialist action, just normal for the literal rest of the world stuff.

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        In general, yea. Just gonna be more performative nonsense because they don’t actually care about this, they care about keeping up the lie that America is about “freedom and liberty”, who wholesale bought the lie but just want to break from this country’s racist origins because it makes them feel icky to think about. They only care so far as it’s convenient for them to do so; ask them to make any changes to their status quo, take some risks against the system for the sake of those who don’t have the choice to avoid those risks, and suddenly you’ve gone to far.

        Any that do actually want to change things most likely can’t because of the socioeconomic conditions they face; they are stuck in a community that calls them crazy or, even if they do happen to have a small community of like minded people, they don’t have enough access to the means by which to start building something useful.

        There are a small number of people that have successfully been able to get something started trying to make things better around the country but they are so few and far between that it barely makes a dent.

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        It’s less that we want this but more than there isn’t anything we can do. What do you expect me to do? Vote? Both parties support US imperialism. Run up to the White House with a hunting rifle and launch the revolution? They’re just going to have one of their dozens of snipers shoot me and I’ll be dead. I have zero options other than to just say it’s bad to anyone who is willing to listen.

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    When die AI bubble pops, the resulting surplus energy supply will be disposed off in favor of cheaper, renewable options. But Trump will say the lower energy costs go back to kidnapping Maduro.

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    Maduro and Trump are friends

    Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.

    Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.

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    I think it needs to be pointed out that what Trump has done is highly illegal in the USA and unless he never leaves office or otherwise gets pardoned then he will be going to prison. Just like when Ford pardoned Nixon.

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        I’m pretty sure the exact ruling allows forgiveness for all “official acts” which brings up the question of whether going to war without congressional approval counts as an official act. The president does not have the authority to do this.

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            Technically he was still seeing trial over his election obstruction, he just didn’t make it to sentencing before his reelection.

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          “Official acts” was defined as any that were connected to his holding office. His brushing his teeth is not an official act as the president. We all brush our teeth. Only one individual orders the US military to ambush foreign states. He is president and everyone else is not.

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              I am simply noting the plain fact, that the reason for the invasion occurring is its being ordered by the president. Hence, the order is an “official act” as defined. Why are you shouting, instead of reading and thinking?

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                An official act outside of his office’s authority or capacity is not official, or else the term applies to everything, including brushing his teeth.

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                  You are free to insist on your own definition, but yours will not take precedence, in any future proceedings, over the one from the ruling.

                  Why are you not understanding?

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              Urgh, they are not “defending donald trump”. They are just commenting that due to the us supreme court the united states is no longer a nation under the rule of law and the constitution is more or less a dead document now. Sorry you had to find out on Lemmy about that.

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                  No it would be defending him if they said trump should not be held responsible, good thing that was not said. As far as “cannot” goes they are (correctly) pointing out that at this moment there is not a court in the us of a that will hold trump responsible.

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        He was on his way until 77,302,580 people put him back in the white house while 9 Million people who voted for Biden didn’t show up at all for Harris.

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          He was never on his way. If it was going to happen it would have happened on Jan 6th. He could have been taken into custody and made to stand trial. Instead they waited at least 2 years to even start anything. If that’s how our system works it needs to be ended. It’s useless

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            Mods removed my comment for saying noted facts that Biden sucked shit about getting Trump. When he did treason, the easiest way to give someone federal jail.

            Might as well be pro Trump with that.

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              That was pro trump. I know in my area of the world even the most right people I talked did not understand why trump did not get any punishment, even the pro trump ones did not get it. I think that the lack of action was the last straw holding up the us’s illusion of democracy for many. The young man who drove down main st in the town I have a storefront with a literal 3rd retch flag flying off the back of his truck told me that he did not think trump and biden where on opposing teams at all (you can not get much more right wing then that guy). When the crazy people protesting the “world” government think that the usa’s two party system is fake, and yet not lizard people, start making sense the end is nigh.

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                Yep. Mods hate that their guy is guilty of letting treason get away without issue and run again.

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                  I don’t think they have a guy at all. I think the us has just unfortunately gotten into a if not us then them mentality.

                  Any time someone says something critical of one person it seems to be taken by many as endorsement of the other side of the imaginary team based thing the states has become. And if you state you don’t like ether of the teams on display they call you a centralist as if you are part of their wild ride.

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      Impunity and nonaccountability for presidents is deeply embedded in the framework of American society. Unless they target corporations and the wealthy, they are securely protected despite their evildoing.

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      Laws only matter when they are enforced.

      The chances of the law being enforced is extremely slim.

      Like when Andrew ‘Genocide’ Jackson said of the Supreme Court, “They have made their decision, now let them enforce it”

      Of course, this SCOTUS is filled with bootlickers, so the Trump regime may not even have to do that much.