Bolshevism is a hop and a skip away from Fascism

Fascism is when you guarantee jobs to everyone, when you give housing as a universal right at 3% of monthly average income, when you guarantee universal healthcare and free education to the highest level, when unionization rates are 80+%, when you don’t engage in economic imperialism, and when you’re the only country in the world to provide Spain (my homeland) with weapons to defend itself from fascism in the Spanish Civil War, and when you have more female engineers than the rest of the planet combined.

the working class were never gonna control the means of production as long as the Soviet Union endured

Surely the working class enjoys the means of production so much more now that Russia became a proto-fascist state infringing the rights of women, lgbtq and racialized people, when unemployment exists back again, and when Russia is militarily invading Ukraine. So fucking wonderful for workers to lose a decade of life expectancy, to never recover 1990 GDP levels and to suffer from unemployment, alcoholism, violent crime and mafia, drug abuse, suicide and capitalist exploitation. So much better and democratic workplaces than the USSR with 1 in 10 workplaces being vacant and workers literally being able to leave a job and find another within 2 weeks on average.

You may disagree with the first statement on being an imperialist propaganda outlet, but the rest of information is relevant.

I don’t get your point of posting the article on the Shining Path, though

supplementary wikis

We have them, e.g. ProleWiki, but good luck trying to explain to the average western Wikipedia user that for certain geopolitical topics they might be worth checking out and contrasted with Wikipedia. My problem isn’t the lack of alternatives, my problem is the anticommunist and pro-western bias in Wikipedia, the most used encyclopedia, in geopolitically charged topics.

Tankies don’t think Wikipedia is the devil. You could call me a tankie from my political views, and I very much appreciate Wikipedia and use it on a daily basis. That is not to say it should be used uncritically and unaware of its biases.

Because of the way Wikipedia works, it requires sourcing claims with references, which is a good thing. The problem comes when you have an overwhelming majority of available references in one topic being heavily biased in one particular direction for whatever reason.

For example, when doing research on geopolitically charged topics, you may expect an intrinsic bias in the source availability. Say you go to China and create an open encyclopedia, Wikipedia style, and make an article about the Tiananmen Square events. You may expect that, if the encyclopedia is primarily edited by Chinese users using Chinese language sources, given the bias in the availability of said sources, the article will end up portraying the bias that the sources suffer from.

This is the criticism of tankies towards Wikipedia: in geopolitically charged topics, western sources are quick to unite. We saw it with the genocide in Palestine, where most media regardless of supposed ideological allegiance was reporting on the “both sides are bad” style at best, and outright Israeli propaganda at worst.

So, the point is not to hate on Wikipedia, Wikipedia is as good as an open encyclopedia edited by random people can get. The problem is that if you don’t specifically incorporate filters to compensate for the ideological bias present in the demographic cohort of editors (white, young males of English-speaking countries) and their sources, you will end up with a similar bias in your open encyclopedia. This is why us tankies say that Wikipedia isn’t really that reliable when it comes to, e.g., the eastern block or socialist history.

this is what election interference looks like

Clearly not, as Russia is currently on war against Ukraine. What NATO excelled in was turning Libya from the highest developed country in Africa into a war-torn hellhole.

Would you happily agree to Mexico’s democratic right to host Russian military bases next to the US border if they so wanted? I’m from the EU myself, and it’s obvious to me how if that were the case, this would lead to escalation, so I wouldn’t Desire Russia to pursue a military alliance with Mexico.

And why did those tensions explode later? Just coincidence?

Give me number of murdered civilians in Libya at the time in comparison with Egypt or Chad, both neighboring countries.

And you’re not answering: which country did Libya invade?

the only way for Africans to be properous is if they are ruled over by a strongman dictator

That’s only if you believe the western propaganda. [Libya had a functioning representative democracy and the role of Gaddafi is overblown. Morocco today is a monarchy and so is Saudi Arabia and I dont see you calling for the bombing of either country.

One of the cornerstones of democracy is education for everyone, and Libya had an extremely successful education system that turned Libya into one of the countries with highest education level in Africa, hardly pointing to the decisions of a dictator wanting to keep the masses oppressed.

I understand you believe Gaddafi was a bloody, ruthless, corrupt dictator, but Libya was arguably more Democratic than any country in its surroundings and the source of most claims of horrible dictatorship come from western media apparatus of “eagle burger freedom institute”.

Oh, which country did Libya invade? What was the civilian murder rate compared to neighboring countries? Give me numbers instead of vibes, please

Well, NATO hasn’t carried out a single defensive operation in history, and has carried out (officially like in Libya or unofficially like in Iraq) several invasion wars.

Gaddafi was bad, sure

By creating the country in Africa with highest Human Development Index instead of becoming your run off the mill slavery-sustained petrostate like Saudi Arabia?

The destruction of the Libyan airforce so Gaddafi couldn’t drop bombs on his civilian population like Assad did in Syria

Brown leader inevitably bombs civilians if not for glorious white interference

good thing that saved lives.

Yeah, surely Libya wasnt catapulted into horrifying civil war that lasted decades after and killed hundreds of thousands of people in formerly the most developed country in Africa…

Russians wanted to join Europe, it simply wasn’t allowed, I don’t know what part of agency I’m removing from Russians. Funny how some countries are “democratically” allowed to join NATO (was there a referendum in Ukraine?), and some aren’t.

Hopefully you won’t categorize a 2014 BBC article transcribing a leaked call from Victoria Nuland as Russian Propaganda. She openly conspires as to who they wanna put as president of Ukraine, and propose Yatsenyuk, the guy who would go on to become prime minister after Yanukovich. From the transcribed call:

Nuland: Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.

Nuland: [Breaks in] I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the… what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside.

I wonder why only 10 years after the dismantling of the Eastern Block Yugoslavia turned from a problem-less multi-ethnic state to a country riddled with racial violence… Surely the west has nothing to do with that!

I’d imagine Russia would still act like the dickbags

In your alternate reality Russia is still bad because you’re just Russophobe. The current proto-fascist Russian government is a direct consequence of western decisions, first by dismantling the Soviet Union and then by not allowing Russia to Europeify.

I think the genocide of Gazans intensified in 2023, but no, I think it’s been ongoing for almost a century at this point. Why?

Millions of innocents were murdered regardless, I don’t see your point.

I commend your care about the minorities in the US, I’m just trying to show that this isn’t an exclusive Trump issue, the US system literally puts 1 in 5 black men through the prison system throughout their lives. I’m not endorsing Trump, I’m not endorsing ICE, both are fascist organizations. It’s just that the entire US apparatus is fascist and now it’s strengthening its repression inwards, which has USians worried. As a non-USian, it’s sad to see, but it’s what Democrats enabled by not doing literally anything during their rule and putting forth an unelectable pro-genocide candidate talking of fascist points such as the infamous “I will ensure that the USA has the most lethal armed forces in the world” to which the crowd in the DNC responded “USA, USA, USA”. The way to fight fascists historically isn’t to elect less fascist right wing, not even social democrats, but to organize in communist and anarchist unions, parties and organizations.