Look further into how Muslims “expelled” Jews out the middle East and you’ll find Israel giving governments money to kick out their Jewish community and they get to keep everything, when that didn’t initially work in Iraq, Israel sent death squads into Iraq to attack Jewish communities

Your not wrong is the Pakistani interference but that doesn’t remotely change the fact that the mujahedeen whos direct successors were funded by America, bin laden as you say was a middle man between Saudi and and America for money yet to claim it’s more due to Pakistan? Every lead goes back to America and American funding and American ideology, Pakistans funding of Afghani extremist is in line with us doctrine for the region even when Afghanistan had a democratic leader and a functional military it chose not to support them and instead radicals from the countryside

But you are absolutely right about Saudis funding extremism, wanna guess who propped up the tiny little emirate of Saud into controlling most of the Arabian peninsula? Or how the saud leadership who funded this were directly couped in by America against the former Saudi leader? As a former Muslim I’m fully aware of how evil the Arabian peninsula states are and how fucked Pakistan became under Zia al huq, but that doesn’t even remotely change the fact that the leader of all of this was still America and it’s idealistic Monroe doctrine

I mean the Taliban literally are born out of the US funding of mujahedeen Extremists. Afghanistan while clan based had a solid leader in the 70s

First of of all 1970s isn’t when america, Britian or Russia were occupying Afghanistan, it was free and had a democratic leader. Todays Taliban while the new leaders aren’t free from influence of america. The Taliban are the offshoots/successors of the mujahedeen a fundamentalist and extremist organization funded by America to fight against Russia who then afterwards were so funded in comparison to the rest of Afghanistan that they took power. But if you couldn’t understand these basic facts how am I going to explain to you internal political pressure that comes with tourism, money flowing and educated people returning to a regime and their ideals. I don’t support the Taliban but I support they are the current free leaders of Afghanistan and somehow they are leading better than “free world” that funded these extreme bigots stopping girls from going schools and the massive drug fields

Too late for that jackass, peace comes when Israel is dismantled and you Zionist are scattered to the wind. You don’t give a shit about Jews, if you did youd know countless Jews abroad are against Israel

Tourism is currently booming, people are coming back to Afghanistan and that alone is a massive change, it’s restructuring what it is decades of drug trafficking for finance to tourism for finance. My friend no offense, but I don’t think you know anything about Afghanistan bar what is said on some major corporate media conglomeration owned by Peter thiel or some shit

Id argue it’s gonna be much better than when america and NATO came to “civilize” them, or the russians came before that or the Brits came even before that. Afghanistan requires Change, but real change happens within, by the people, not fucking “white saviours”

The descendants of colonisers are pissed you would dare say that

Is that because the concept of country is a European conception? Also what grave are most of the of the old world built on? Iran, china, Iraq, Syria, India etc etc

China isn’t engaging in genocide or actively attacking and bombing the planet you fucking idiot. Also Russia and Ukraine are NATIONS both with armies, navies and all the other good stuff other then manpower difference being Russia isn’t even remotely democratic so to blame the people is unfair when they have no say in the matter.

5 miles away from spawn point, the furthest I’ve lived is 300 miles away but in the same nation, my spawn city is absolutely home to me, even if not ethnically from here, I am very privileged to be born here

Running off like a little removed ay, come on bro 6TH CENTURY WHITE JESUS. Where is it then lmfaooooo Average hardcore high school drop out Lemmy user in his mom’s basement moment

That’s 15 century from Germany, are you stupid as fuck? Hes also clearly Jewish and showing showing characteristics as medieval Europe knew he was a Jew. Where is white jesus then?

Found this on Reddit a great write up on someone telling someone equally as unqualified as you on the topic in words Far cleaner than mine. Go have a read without a Hentai break if you can

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It’s only in recent years that he’s been consistently portrayed as a white man by Western (particularly American) Christians.

I’m sorry, but this claim of /u/best_of_badgers is just not true. They’ve cherry-picked individual examples without any sense of their historical context and skipped an entire millennium of western Europe. A millennium in which, if David Nirenberg is correct, Christian icongraphy was a major vehicle for working out concepts of racial difference before “race.”

Medieval European (and Middle Eastern, for that matter) scholars inherited from antiquity the idea that climate affects the development of those native to the region–this will play an important role in the evolution of scientific racism into the early 20th century. The closer to the equator, the hotter the temperature–the angier, earthier, and darker-skinned people got. Centuries before “black” and “white” accrued their modern American meanings, medieval Latin writers were describing and illuminators were painting white and black people. There are a few cases, like the famous Spanish manuscript known as the Book of Games, where the depictions seem to mirror the diversity of the painters’ experience to some extent: the illuminations feature dark-skinned and light-skinned Saracen men, and light-skinned Christian and Saracen women alike (the Christian men are all light-skinned). But especially when depicting situations of Christians vs. Saracens, as in illustrations to the Song of Roland, the Saracens are uniformly dark-skinned and the Christians light-skinned. The association of Christians as white and Muslims as black persists in literary descriptions. In medieval romance, characters with one Christian and one Saracen parent are even described as black and white spotted. Or when a Saracen character converts to Christianity, their skin color physically changes from black to white.

So European artists were well aware that native residents of more southern lands tended to have darker skin. And yet western European medieval Jesus is white. It’s 14th century mystic Birgitta of Sweden who gives us, through her visions, the tradition of Mary as not just white but blonde. Her Jesus, too, shines with white light.

I want to highlight a second iconographical development over the later Middle Ages. Iconography is all about the use of visual shorthand to convey meaning. In earlier art, into the high Middle Ages, depictions of Jews are recognizable above all by their hats, sometimes also by their clothing. But over the later M.A., Jews start to take on what we now see as “stereotypically” Jewish features (stereotypically thanks to Christian-incubated iconography), primarily darker features and a hooked nose.

Medieval Christians knew Jesus was Jewish. Some theologians and pastors occasionally made a big deal out of it (typically in an anti-Jewish context). Do medieval illuminations and woodcuts of Jesus and Mary give them the stereotypical hooked nose?

No, they bestow that feature on demons and the devil.

Depictions of Jesus are iconographical: they represent concrete theological and often political claims. In western medieval art, the depiction of Jesus as “like us” reigned supreme and served to demarcate, isolate, and condemn everyone else. "

So bud when you showing me that 6th century white jesus?

Black isn’t a race, could you not figure that out?

Catholicism comes from Christianity comes from an event in middle east and is a successor to Judaism which again is from the middle east, could you not figure that out?

Show me 6th century white jesus? This should be interesting I already checked 😂

Why is it always the losers who cry about weird things like instance, make the biggest stink always the least educated people. The fuck you get your knowledge from? Intensive anime watching?

Awww you gonna cry you massive baby, somebody goes against you and start crying .ml user you Virgin. I chose this instance by random but my god do I love how weird losers on the internet get so attached to weird meaningless things.

That’s the 15th century so Germany didn’t make the white jesus as you said 6th century right? Please cry more. Where is is this 6th century white jesus btw?

Germany nor Poland made the white jesus, your bringing up an entirely moot point

I can already tell you’re not at all well versed in this topic. Have you heard of a concept called trade mate? Did you know that before the Roman empire even existed a network of trade and safe passage was made that could traverse from China to the furthest western point of Europe including India, the steppes and African trade (east coast). Also you keep going back to 'black people" like wtf is this discount American eugenics take. Bro the religion is middle eastern, people knew what they looked like, there’s thing thing called art and sculptures which help those who never seem one understand what they look like. But none of this even matters you turned into a race thing, it was a cultural shift, the 14th century did a white jesus start coming up in some obscure art and didn’t really take off till the 20th century (white jesus) Just another fat L, Tel Aviv wasn’t a thing back then, tf you choose that awful fucking city full of earth’s worst people. call it by it’s real name. Jaffa

They’ve seen Arabs and Semites haven’t they… The land where jesus is from. Why you talking like jesus is from the heart of Africa

Clearly you never been north. The south fish and chips are shite