• WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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      Why is the moral obligation on the progressives to join with the centrists? The progressives should start their own party. Then we can tell the centrists that they can get on board. And if they don’t, it’s their fault Republicans win. This street goes both ways.

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      7 days ago

      Yup.

      We literally witnessed the insane base change the Republican party.

      It’s 100% possible for liberals to force the Democrat party to change.

      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        That’s what the abolitionists thought about the Whigs. They tried for decades in vain to get the Whigs to adopt anti-slavery positions, but the Whigs were far too loyal to business interests and the status quo. In the end it took abolitionists abandoning the Whigs entirely and founding the Republican party.

        We’ve witnessed this before. Sometimes parties become so resistant to change that the only way forward is to walk away. Yes, this takes a willingness to reject myopic thinking - to focus on the long term rather than the short term. But this short term thinking, only looking at one election at a time, is what has got us to this crisis.