• chetradley@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I had a girl bring a guy friend along on our first date without giving me a heads up for the same reason. I was like, ok that’s a little weird but whatever. I’m certainly not going to give someone shit for doing something that makes them feel comfortable. Ended up chatting it up with the guy friend who turned out to be super cool.

    So me and the girl end up seriously dating after a while and she later tells me that she spent most of our first date trying to subtly get her friend to leave so that she could spend more time with me.

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    It wouldn’t bother me if somebody wanted to bring a friend on a date. However, I would communicate that it would change the dynamic into a “hangout” over a traditional “date” for me. The difference being that a date carries romantic intent and a hangout is for the sake of connecting with others without romantic expectations. Also, a hangout means everybody pays for themselves.

    This takes the pressure off by lowering the stakes since it’s now just a casual hangout between peers. It also has the benefit of making the third not feel excluded as a third wheel but a welcome part of the group.

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        If I remember correctly (it’s been over 16 years), my wife suggested separate checks the first time, and I told her I’d pay this time and she could get the next one if she wanted to go out again.

        I think I still ended up paying for the next one (or separate checks), but that wasn’t a cultural norm thing, I just get uncomfortable with other people paying for me.

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        My current fiance said she almost didn’t want to go on a second date with me because I wanted to go Dutch on our first date. She still tells me to this day that I’m lucky I was cute.

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            Date pays for their stuff, you pay for your own. Basically, separate tabs.

            To be clear, I would have paid if she had asked me to at the time. When the bill came for the food, I asked if she wanted separate or together, but my phrasing made it sound like I wanted to split it and she said that was fine. Whoops.

            Don’t worry, she’s making up for lost time. I pay for almost everything when we go out now 😅

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      If i invite someone out to dinner I pay. If someone invites me out to dinner I expect them to pay. However, I think in general in the US most men and women expect the man to pay.

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        If i invite someone out to dinner I pay. If someone invites me out to dinner I expect them to pay.

        expect the man to pay

        …they’re the same picture. Seriously, given the general dynamics of how straight dating actually ends up working most of the time IRL, these are basically equivalent statements, because the man is also generally expected to be the one to do the asking.

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          Agreed. Most of the time the man is expected to do the asking. From my personal, not reflective of the rest of society, experience…when dating if I asked someone out id plan the date and pay. It was usually second date when dating men, or once when I had to cancel on a first date I then asked the person out and arranged the first date.

          The only time I ever felt a bit grumpy about paying was when the other person couldn’t decide between two dishes. I told them to order both, and I assumed theyd take their leftovers. They ate a tiny bit of each and didn’t take any home. Thats just wasteful. There was no next date.

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      This is an outdated expectation, although it could also be considered respectful on a date.

      I’ve heard that in restaurants in the USA you often give your credit card and they scan it and return it because they don’t have portable terminals. I’ve also heard that it’s often returned to the man regardless of name on card / who gave it. Both of these seem very outdated.

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        Smart servers just put the check and the card between the people if it’s not obvious who’s paying. I’m a great test case for this because my spouse and I both happen to have first names that could belong to a man or a woman.
        It’s pretty much random which one of us pays because we pool our money anyway.

        Often they drop the bill in the little book and we stick the card in the end of it and put it back on the end of the table, they come by, run the card and then come back….

        you can see the fear in their eyes sometimes, like “oh shit. This could be either one of them… 50/50 chance I annoy the one who’s writing the tip”.

        We’ve both worked service industry so we don’t care at all and tip well either way but it’s pretty funny to see the realization sometimes.

        Oh and, if it’s two people on a date (not a boring old married couple like us eating dinner) and there’s only one bill… 9/10 it’s the guy paying.

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    Last time a chick brought a friend with her, I got on better with the friend… And I went home with the friend. Pro tip, if youre bringing a friend. Dont make it a friend thats better to talk to than you are.

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    I had a girl cancel and reschedule our first date shortly before we were supposed to meet up. That date happened, and she confided in me that she’d done that on purpose to gauge my reaction and general demeanor before actually coming out to meet me. I respected that move, and I think I would have been okay with her bringing a friend instead, as long as it was just the once.

    Anyway, that was eight years ago, we’re married now.

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      Nice that it worked out but deception and playing games would be a huge red flag for me. Nothing about that instance in particular, it’s just that I’d always wonder “is this situation for real or another trick?”

      Maybe the immediate followup fixes it. You were strangers then after all. And after eight years of course you know what you’re working with haha

      Damnit now I’m just rambling to myself, carry on!

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      You’re a dumbass for playing along with such insane bullshit but I’m glad it worked out for you.

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        I don’t think “begrudging women a single test to see if someone is the type to explode over a single inconvenience” is the right hill to stick your flag on.

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          Trying to start a relationship by playing games is very much a good place to find red flags.

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            It might seem like a game to you but that’s someone’s life.

            Do you have an alternative for how they should determine if a potential partner is a danger? Besides hiring a private detective or rolling the dice by finding out after they’re invested?

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              If you can’t trust a stranger even a little bit then don’t date complete strangers. Limit your dating pool to your circle of friends, friends of friends, people you already know or that your friends vouch for.

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                That is so utterly devoid of empathy that I have nothing left to say to you.

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                  Yeah, lack of empathy on her side, I know. If you think your date is a potential rapist/murderer/… then why are you trying to date them?

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          Yeah, I’d say it’s a red flag except there are a ton of crazies that this quickly filters for them and keeps them safe from.

          So in an ideal world it would be bad, but it makes sense in the one we live in.

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    I think if someone implied they were bringing someone without at least asking, as this person did, I would match their rude energy and say “I did not agree to that, so here are my boundaries.”

    The way the other party phrased it would annoy the shit out of me. 'I’m bringing my best friend." Ok, so why don’t you date them? Causes way more friction than asking “Hey, I know it’s unconventional but I would like a friend to be there just for my safety since we don’t know eachother yet.”

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    You are not wrong. But I think you are being an asshole about it. You could have said “that is cool, but I’m not paying for her food” and is it. No need to be rude.

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    I could never feel safe on a date with someone who censors swear words in screenshots they post to the fucking Internet.

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    Grey text is looking out for their safety, good for them. Blue text is clearly communicating their boundaries, good for them. Neither is phrasing their needs as I would, but that’s small potatoes. I’d rather date either of these people than most of the ones replying in this thread.

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    I remember when a date auction at my college worked this way, the girls always came in pairs. When I thought about it afterwards, it made sense, but it still made me feel just apprehensive enough in the moment - being outnumbered in a moment of social vulnerability - that I didn’t bid on anyone.

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      The idea of paying for a date is weird to me but in that scenario I guess the bright side is twice as many girls to potentially hit it off with at once.

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        If it matters, the money in that case was going to a charitable cause, not the people you’d date.

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          Yeah, I get it, it’s still kind of weird to me. If I have to pay for a woman’s attention who wouldn’t be interested otherwise I’d just assume not bother her with it.

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      I’m still fucked off that this is where we’re headed as a society - computers deciding what obscenities we can handle

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        So fucking true like why the fuck do all of these damn corposhit platforms fucking hate random ass words just because advertisers are scared as fuck of having their crap advertised next to them?? I’ve actually fucking seen these cunts censor “stole” and “bullet”, what is this damn bullshit?? Shut your fucking asses up stupid corpobitches and stop fucking whining about random fucking words!! Random shitty ads that people block anyway are your fucking reason for annoying the hell out of people who happen to use these words? I will fucking kill these fucks with a fucking gun - they even censor “kill” and “gun” because advertisers are SO FUCKING FRAGILE that they cannot take any fucking mention of death or violence. The shitty enshittified shit platforms owned by billionaire shitheads are ASS and the fediverse’s war against them needs to be fucking accelerated or we won’t be allowed to say “glass” anymore because shards of glass can fucking hurt you and the jackasses will think that this means that the damn word will need censoring into oblivion. Or maybe the fragile fuckers will lobby to make using these fucking words illegal like the damn UAE has it. Fuck you corpobitches 🖕🖕🖕

        meme with stole censored

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      She would lucky if I even showed up. NGL if there is that much distrust from the get, I’m not into it.