• Charlxmagne@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It’s open source, although not 'cause it wants to be but 'cause it’s the best way to compete with mainstream non-chinese software internationally, you can easily remove any censorship included by default.

  • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Yet unlike American led LLM companies Chinese researchers open sourced their model leading to government investment

    So the government invests in a model that you can use, including theoretically removing these guardrails. And these models can be used by anyone and the technology within can be built off of, though they do have to be licensed for commercial use

    Whereas America pumps 500 billion into the AI industry for closed proprietary models that will serve only the capitalists creating them. If we are investing taxpayer money into concerns like this we should take a note from China and demand the same standards that they are seeing from deepseek. Deepseek is still profit motivated; it is not inherently bad for such a thing. But if you expect a great deal of taxpayer money then your work needs to open and shared with the people, as deepseeks was.

    Americans are getting tragically fleeced on this so a handful of people can get loaded. This happens all the time but this time there’s a literal example of what should be occurring happening right alongside. And yet what people end up concerning themselves with is Sinophobia rather than the fact that their government is robbing them blind

    Additionally American models still deliver pro capitalist propaganda, just less transparently: ask them about this issue and they will talk about the complexity of “trade secrets” and “proprietary knowledge” needed to justify investment and discouraging the idea of open source models, even though deepseeks existence proves it can be done collaboratively with financial success.

    The difference is that deepseeks censorship is clear: “I will not speak about this” can be frustrating but at least it is obvious where the lines are. The former is far more subversive (though to be fair it is also potentially a byproduct of content consumed and not necessarily direction from openai/google/whoever)

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      I mean DeepSeek opened their model mostly to fuck with the US, I can’t imagine it wasn’t their goal.

      Erasing a cool trill on a day was absolutely amazing to watch.

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      Texas is a country. Now imagine $40 billion a year of various media and disinfo agents repeating that ad nauseum in every place they can literally all the time for nearly 50 years now, all so China can’t take revenge against Japan.

      You’d get annoyed and probably ban it since that’s the easiest way to get your enemy to waste money forever.

      Taipei is an autonomous region, like Xinjiang or Tibet. As long as they don’t grossly violate federal law they get to stay autonomous.

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        This is the biggest crock of shit ever. Go to Taiwan, experience it for yourself. Go to their museums and talk to their people. You will find a democratic nation with its own values and beliefs. Then take your ignorant ass over to Texas and repeat the same drivel you said here and see what happens.