Is it illegal to do that normally ? (even if they are spies)
If you dance with the devil, the devil don’t change, he changes you.
our “great allies in the middle east”. The trustworthy people we want to open up our secrets to…
They could at least have the competence to not be caught in ham handed half assed activities. Is just pretending to be competent too much to ask?What a bunch of treacherous incompetent dickheads.
How do you know it wasn’t the US gov that bugged their own workers phones
Israel and Russia are the most significant threat to America. Right after Americans.
Israel is an enemy, and many congress critters are in bed with them. Be they red or blue, those people are traitors.
Nothing else like a man watching chaos unfold. I betcha there’s double agents in the Mossad.
Amazing what brainrot does to people. Here you have evidence of decades of Israel with both hands up the US’s entire power structure, but you somehow still find a way to wind Russia up in there. Amazing.
Like, how exactly would Russia have these amazing double agents in the Mossad? How many? How did they get there? At the same time also able to manipulate the entire US into voting for Trump, the guy bombing Russian allies, all for … what exactly? And with washing machine CPUs no less!
I’m a man watching silly people believe complete nonsense. And I’m loving it.
Simply because a weak US is an advantage for any rising autocracy out here. China and Russia mainly. Any ressources focussed on the middle east is a ressource that cannot go to the Pacific ocean to counter China influence, or to Eastern Europe to counter Russia imperialism.
gasp No!
Israel cares only for Israel, most countries put self interest first so that’s only natural but Israel is extreme. What’s in it for the US to integrate in such a one sided relationship?
Kickstart the Rapture.
There might be an “end of days” for Israelis, but I dont believe there will be one for everyone else. In their mind its the same as the end of the world. In the rest of the world eyes its going to be just another Wednesday.
A recurring theme of the current religious Republicans.
Jesus coming to gather his faithful is going to be more like that moment when you open the fridge drawer and realize there’s something you meant to get to but now it’s just a fuzzy black goo.
Countries tend to become extreme when they’re in a state of war. Do you think Iran is currently not being extreme about it’s self interest?
What’s in it for the US to integrate in such a one sided relationship?
First of all the “US-Israeli Military merger” line is obvious hyperbole, because LOL come on. You can google the document they referenced, which you should always do when “alt-media” is saying crazy shit. The reality is the US is looking to get some drone and anti-drone tech from Israel and learn which tactics are effective.
What’s weird is the US isn’t entering into a similar arrangement with Ukraine, but Trump would veto that because he’s a Russian asset. So anyway the US wants to learn about drone warfare from a country with some experience with it, Ukraine has the most experience and Israel has the next most.
Oh, and allies spy on each other all the time. Angela Merkel’s phone was bugged by the US a ways back and Trump shared details about Macron’s sex life from the files he kept at Mar a Lago, which were in those files because the US spies on France. These are just intel that we’ve found out about, we can probably assume the US spies on all of it’s allies.
Besides, given how compromised US intelligence is now, spying on the US is just finding out what the adversaries of the US probably already know.
Israel is literally the largest threat to the US and its citizens. The only involvement they should have with our military is being on the receiving end of its attacks.
Israel is absolutely fucking with America but deserves to be cut off from the west and left alone with the neighbors they have provoked for generations.
I agree. They’re not even worth the money and effort for us to attack. All we need to do is completely cut them off, seize their assets, hit a few key iron dome sites, then watch their neighbors exact a well deserved revenge.
Israel and its citizens are mistakes, and it’s high time we fix that mistake.
Israel and its citizens are mistakes, and it’s high time we fix that mistake.
Bloodthirsty vibes from this aside, Israel and its warmonger culture is working exactly as it was intended from the start. At best it’s just a caricaturized version of the US, which makes sense considering both of those countries’ intimate ties since the beginning.
“Solve” Israel and all anyone is doing is cutting off a branch when the rot starts at the roots. It would pretty much be a textbook example of the scapegoat mechanism. Obviously they aren’t innocent of anything, but solely removing their influence out of the equation will never change anything substantial.
solely removing their influence out of the equation will never change anything substantial
hard disagree, Israel is one of the greatest impediments to peace across the world. Even not counting the mass misery and mass murder they have committed, Without them in the middle east the place would be transformed and religious extremism would be less attractive to millions of people in many faiths.
My point is that a large part of what led to Israel being the way it is are the western values and ideals it was established specifically in mind of, namely colonialism, imperialism, and western exceptionalism. Solely getting rid of them doesn’t handle any of the root causes like that.
Can’t talk about Israel’s history and leave the Brits out.
Yep, I think I just tend to mentally clump them together with the west as a whole tbh. That’s on me tho
That’s not unfair, just pointing out that they have more than one long standing ally in the west.
i still prefer the fascism version, but i could not find an animated one
Opsec is dead.
I’m not shocked that the US would do an Anschluss; I am shocked that the US is Austria in this situation.
On the one hand I’m amazed at how Israel has managed to manoeuvre itself in international politics to project such an outsized impact on the world, on the other hand I’m baffled how a nation as powerful economically and militarily as the US would be willing to even entertain the idea instead of calling out the blatant ridiculousness of the suggestion.
We let then bomb the USS Liberty and did nothing about it. 34 dead 171 wounded. No consequences.
didn’t the us send them a thank you ham?
If we havent yet we should. Send it to them at relativistic speeds to cook it for them. We have the science, lets use it.
I think Scott Manley did the science on using frozen turkeys as a heat shield for reentry
This is why your phones modem shouldn’t install shit without user consent. Or better yet, at all.
Israelis arent big on consent. I doubt they know what the word means.
Phones don’t believe in consent.
On the other hand, I would not be surprised if the US put spyware on visitors mobiles. Any visitor, from any country.
All phones are spyware.
