Well I am failing to understand where I am not breaking through with you and feel like you keep getting caught up on small symantics that act more as gatch’yas more than anything. I typed up a response but after re-reading our messages I kind of just repeat myself, and I don’t think either of us are going to really move forward.

Any other questions, concerns or points you would like to make?

They have the same fears of our tech too, Tesla isnt allowed to have their vehicles in many parts of China due to all its cameras and pings back to the US. All of our software surpremacy is just one super backdoor to the worlds information. Every other country desperately wants to stop that, besides our 5 eyes allies and Israel.

And sure I did classify what was worse but maybe my wording was a little bad and I’m failing to get my message across. All are bad, we are both pretty much evil countries that abuse human rights. One being forgien, and one being local doesnt change that.

What changes is one is directly effecting me and ruling over me. That aspect of it is worse.

Ahh so im talking to a Vulcan and I’m not allowed to go on my creative writting tangents. Also you talk like a debate bro I’m going to take your arguments you are trying to make at face value.

Both are malware, dont care in classifying which one is “worse” when primarilly I only care about the ones who have direct reach and control over my life and how I have to make decisions.

Our spyware is worse because I have to live directly with it and those are the people forcing computers into cars that we can no longer afford. Tech bros, and data companies are ruining cars. In my mind that’s much worse than a invisible threat that isn’t even allowed to operate here yet just due to the import fees alone. Fuck GM, fuck ford, fuck all them they should of never got bailed out.

Its just the way you keep pushing this issue implies that because the forgien one is bad, we should justify the local one being bad.

If anything I support the forgien one more because you know I expect them to be bad guys. If these entities where people how would you feel with them sleeping with your wife? The “foreigner Chinese bloke” would probably sting when you found out, but it would be nothing in comparison when your good Christian church leader Mr ford does it. Even worse the church leader will gas light you about it not happening, while continuing to double down and bring other guys over to fuck your wife. And he can only do this because hes local.

I classify anything thing that’s not foss as malware/spyware, and even then I cant even fully trust that.

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole the only thing that will end up making sense is temple OS. But no one really cares that much about privacy to be that inconvienced.

It was more to point out that its kind of hypocritical because its not like we aren’t doing the same thing. If anything I see the US goverment as a more of a threat because everything they do is directly effecting me. With China I cant be certain and can only blindly speculate what bad stuff is happening. I don’t directly see how I’m getting fucked so theres some willful ignorance I enjoy having occasionally. Its not like here how they use the cars meta data to make your insurance rates go up, or deny you coverage in a crash because they can point at a metric. Theres no face to the evil.

To me its the only good term.

If it’s a sale by owner gets me hard.

Nothing beats finding a nice looking truck or car on the side of the road and finding the right person at the right time.

Anything past 2013 is not worth the time.

Dont buy a car past 2013

Would more likely be a forceful regulation of cars.

More likely we would be trying to push out imported cars by pushing some kind of “american saftey” regulation. Maybe claiming that the imported cars have Chinese spyware in them (but the spyware in our cars is cool), or by saying that they are trying to flood the market with cheap unsafe garbage cars so we need to tarrif them even more to save our domestic car market.

All while we forcefully regulated in more computers that make the roads even more unsafe. No one can turn their god damn neck anymore because of those stupid blind spot detectors and lane assist just means you can text while driving now. Oh and every car needs to collect more data than your phone can do legally. Bullshit computers won’t let you change the MOTOR for your windshield because the part is Vin locked so you have to spend 500 dollars on just the motor before the technician who is the only person allowed to work on your car, charges you 2.5 grand in labor. All that for a fix that uses to cost 20 dollars at a pick and pull.

Another route we can go is because cars have so many cameras the cars now have to have some American made operating system forced into them for “national security” which Honda, KIA, etc will all have to scramble to get working and it will be a disastrous mess that bricks cars, and causes a lot of issues.

In no way shape or form are cars going to become cool again and become deregulated. If anything gets deregulated its the consumer protections for data collection. Cars are on track to be this thing you are not allowed to own, but like a autonomous taxi that you indefinitely rent, and have no control or ownership over. It will be a narc and report and record everything you do. Its like public transport, but you have to pay the price for the whole car, and pay a monthly subscription for it on top of paying for the matience (that only the OEM can do at a $250 a hr labor charge).

I can only wish cars could become more degregulated. Im still bittered we bailed out the automotive industry all for them to keep fucking us in the ass with shittier bigger trucks that break down more often and we have to pay off for two to three presidential terms. Fucking China has the equivalent of a Tesla for 16k, and in the united States I can buy a Ford bronco for 36 months at 450 dollars a month.

So they sell the steam deck in your country now? You can probably just wait a good while for them to sell the console in your country.

If you wait long enough they might offer a barebones kit kind of like the old Intel nuks. You can get for cheaper and buy your own ram and storage. Its rumored that the failure for many ai data centers to come to fruition, will line up with the ram manufacturers getting new facilities up, will cause a crash in hardware prices. Don’t know if that means cheap ram or if it gets more expensive in the wacky economy anymore, but its something to gain or lose from when you wait long enough.

I would definately not buy from a scalper though. The thing is barely worth it to me at 700 dollars as a fan boy who would love a new toy from valve. I could not imagine paying close to double for it, or risk getting just scammed. I’m sure I could do something like a charge back, or having to get on some Ai customer support to get my money back but its not worth it to me anymore.

Thank you I probably could of done that or wrote a little synopsis.

Synopsis - videos kind of a short video essay, where the op interviews someone they met at a privacy hackathon. The person in the interview seemed interesting to op, and they barely mention nym which was the project he made. They mention it at the end but only briefly, again it seems like a short video essay more than a tech video. More emotional but I appreciated the messaging at the end especially when I find myself focusing more on the negative.

Shaka when the walls fell

Pretty sure this is the guy that runs the anti Linux subreddits. He has mental health issues and is weird and obsessive.

Probably not related but the pro-ai crowd like copy’s this guys format or they work together or something because the ragebait they use is pretty much the same style/patterns that target clueless children.

I encourage no one to engage with him, don’t ignore him just if you see his name downvote and move on.

Make sure not to ruin a good thing and throw a roku stick on it.

If someone out there still thought the cops was the good guys, this is mainstream enough that its going to open some eyes to the belief that all cops are bad cops.

We’ve been saying how corrupt police are and how they are like a gang that sticks up for themselves first and foremost. Now the youth get to experience that second hand in a way that the public can’t confuse them about race issues or make it about issues anything other than what it is.

I know its stupid for reckless Ben to not use a lawyer but this way we get to see straight up every avenue they use to try to abuse their power.

Also the apps on the store have some how even less privacy protections thenyoue phone.

Half the apps let your TV act as a proxy for botnets. They need residential IPs otherwise sites won’t let them in to scrape all the data illegally, or use bots to wrote fake comments or inflate views.

Sucks you can’t just get a normal TV anywhere they all have to come with android and are sold at a loss because companies like Netflix pay to get their spyware perm installed into the TV. Literally if you want to buy a decently sized television (not a monitor under 26 inches) you pretty much have to buy a commercial TV that they use in drive throughs,and they cost like 5-10 grand because theres no spyware in it.

Anything that’s not Foss is malware imo. And even then you’re not always safe. Once you start needing to use google play services, need a Microsoft ID, meta api, etc etc it all gets thrown into the same bin “cc cleaners” get thrown into.

Sadly Ai is destroying whatever is left of the internet, and trying to enforce that it only remains slop malware. and Microsoft is ruining github. And even the Foss software now has to deal with constant flooding of requests from any idiot with an agent who has enough money or compute he thinks he can just force his way in through pure volume of spam. Its just before time before bad interests ruin all Foss projects because microsoft can essentially just steal anyone’s code and vibecode a shittier version of it because it got absorbed into training data. Any one who wants to put a virus in the back bone of anything could just put out an army of agents to find obscure projects and trying to fish out permissions or submit a change with some bag door or critical bug.

Ironically sometimes I think the only TRUE way is temple OS. Only having 16 colors isn’t that limiting if you’re creative. And its actually a feature that it doesnt have access to the internet, it already has everything you need.

I didn’t say I’m limiting myself if anything I am for local Ai useage and many form of Ais. I think I mentioned that before. If there was some form of socialist automated revolution it would come from those cool guys.

I think the original point I was trying to make in the last comment is that its not productive to give Ai any free positive PR work in random ass comment threads. No one cares you have to use copilot for work. They literally have all the money, and are stealing more money as we speak by forcing their way into the stock market and forcing everyone retirements to be tied into a product that will never be profitable. Literally what kids did on runescape with the grand exchange in merch clans. Abusing trade limits and low volumes to sell their stock off to people who are going to tank all the costs. They don’t need anymore money the gutted half of the united states to the point of federal facilities barely function, and the protected land is being just handed over to these companies to build ai data centers and some how the local communities have to pay for the Ai companies power bill and water usage. We’ve bent over backwards and spread our butt cheeks you don’t need to flatter them as they are doing it.

Also I know this idea of being calm and collected makes you seem like the intelligent one in some debate bro kind of enviorment, in spaces like reddit more often you get ignored and no one wants to read an essay. There should be a slightly edgier side to being a leftist, that appeals to more the disenfranchised youth. It worked with gamer gate and all those kids are adults now running the same emotional factless arguments they where taught 15 years ago by the edgy alt right pipe line. Pretty sure that’s at least half of maga now. I have to type in hyperboles and grand statements, just became habit. Again sorry if it rubs off the wrong way.

I mean I can see the value in ai too and still making broad sweeping anti-ai statements at the same time. Its more productive to broadly be anti-ai than it is to really stop to promote it in anyways. Also I don’t think you guys realize things only become illegal after we make a fuss about it, positive change doesnt come from positive thinking. These tech companies do not underatand consent. Theres literally trillions of dollars going into this nonsense and promoting it, we don’t need anymore sympathy. we could of solved world hunger FOREVER 5 times over, or got universal healthcare. But nope instead that money goes straight to elon musk and we are told that grok (who convinced 15+ people to kill themselves) should be our therapist instead. And if you think thats wrong you are a dangerous human being and should be grate full for an amazing wonderful technology.

If anything in a believer in open sourced models that anyone can run. But you know thats less than 1% of people who used any ai. Also thats not what people think of when they think of Ai. The general public thinks cool older tech like machine vision, just never existed before Sam Altmann stepped along. So when you promote ai you are only helping the epstine class, not actual real people working on real projects. Its like getting excited that people now have to do uber eats and get algorithmically manipulated into working for less than minimum wage. If there was some socialist automated revolution it would come from the local Ai guys, not the epstine class who literally have connections to Israel defense contractors and intellegence. Like god damn half of them are staffed by people in unit 8200.

Ai has become this giant marketing term that chatgpt/grok/gem are trying to hijack to only mean chatbot esque LLM’s. Its much easier to simply be anti Ai or else I’m going to have to type another 20 paragraphs that most people are not going to read. When you are on a platform like reddit you kind of have to pidgon hole your arguments to suit the audience so a lot of nueance goes out the window and you have to make large generalized statements that trigger some form of emotion to even get people engaged. Lemmes nice, its full of people like me who can’t help themselves from over explaining some obscure fact or anything. I feel like I can explain myself to people here and they want to listen.

I’m still used to being on reddit so if what I type sounds more combative in nature than I’m sorry. I like to think I’m conscious about what I type but its much more brain vomiting up thoughts faster than my fingers move.

Yeah for now. Googles also forcing their captchas to only work with official android software. If its not one way theres another way. Google has a million tenticles independently acting at once. You cut one off theres 4 more that where doing stuff you couldnt even consider could happen.

Also developers still need to register and give out their ID. What if someone makes an app that alerts you when ICE is going to break into your home? Now the goverment knows who the developer is and lock him up for 180 years for terrorism. This is still a loss for us, and in line with googles goals. Google is still taking steps forward and will not stop. This is a constant fight.

The algorithms that manipulates your Facebook feed is Ai and yes that predated LLMs and chatgpt who turned this Ai craze into meaningless marketing term. When most people think of Ai they almost exclusively think of chatgpt, or grok. LLMs are not the only form of Ai, thats marketing hype and the same mechanisms that make us start refering to chatgpt or google as a verb. They don’t own a term that describes a vast arrange of software and technologies.

Yes Facebook have been using ai and manipulating peoples feeds for the benefit of their advertisers. This system was used to do a regime change in Egypt and thanks to Cambridge analytica essentially got trump elected the first time. You can say they’ve done it the human way for a long time, but thats not true it was a short period of time before they started training face tagging algorithms, systematically collecting data on you even when you don’t use a Facebook account, even something simple like changing from a organic feed to an algorithmic manipulation feed. Facebook has had Ai in it some from sort from the start, and all of it was and still is bad. I don’t know how to explain anymore clearly that just because LLMs exist now that doesnt mean Ai didn’t existed in the past. I can’t explain to you how much of Facebook has always been just ai data scraping, illegal nonsense.

I think you guys are getting caught up in wording because we are talking about the same thing. Maybe you guys didn’t use it back then and thought it was something more organic and akin to MySpace. It was like that for a year before they started doing weird privacy invading shit because they got inqtel funding. The only thing I don’t have a retort to is humans having to moderate content. I can tell you why we shouldnt use Ai but not a productive alternative.

Also I in no way want to let them off the hook, if anything I think their punishments should be worse or even excessive, for trying to pin their intentions on Ai and mysterious algorithms they pretend not to understand, yet they some how figured out how to abuse that algorithm for their ad partners. If I where to have it my way mark zuckerburg would be in prison already by a judge who insist on using maximum sentences for all possible crimes I can think of, and meta/Facebook would get a fine thats impossible to pay back similar to infowars.